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SCOM 2012- side by side Upgrade RRS feed

  • Question

  • Hi,

    I would like to upgrade to SCOM 2012 but I do not want to do an in place upgrade, is it possible to add a second server install SCOM 2012 and have it run side by side with SCOM 2007 R2? Then update agents to report to the new SCOM 2012 server? Is it possible to import Custom management packs from 2007  into SCOM 2012?

    As far as I understand there is no way of keeping my old DW and reporting DB's, is this correct?

    Thanks 

    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:05 AM

Answers

  • Hi,

    Yes, it's definitely possible to run them both side-by-side. You can use a multihomed (reporting to both management groups, agent must be an OpsMgr 2012 agent) agents during the transition, or you can move the agents from one MG to another.

    Yes, your DW data will not move to another MG.


    http://OpsMgr.ru/

    • Proposed as answer by Graham Davies Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:06 PM
    • Marked as answer by Graham Davies Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10 PM
    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:59 AM
  • Hi,

    Yes, is the short answer. Everything you mention is possible. I recommend doing a fresh install when moving from 2007 R2 to 2012. It's also a great way to clean up your environment and start fresh by moving parts of your environment over one bit at the time. When you push the 2012 agent to servers already Reporting to the 2007 R2 management Group (MG) the 2012 agent will continue to report to the old 2007 R2 MG as well as your new one (agent multi homing). When you are satisfied with your 2012 configuration you simply use the Control Panel applet (Operations Manager Agent), or a script to make the agent stop reporting to your old MG.

     

    For custom management packs I'm not entierly sure that you can import them out of the box. SCOM 2012 has a RMS emulator so that should not be a problem, but you have to import any MPs that your custom MP requires. Maybe someone here can give you a better answer for this question, it should be possible with some manual work. 

     

    No, you can't keep your old OperationsManager DB and DW with your new 2012 MG, you can keep the old servers running as long as you need the data for reporting purposes though.

    I recommend that you download the SCOM 2012 IPD from the Microsoft Connect site (even though it's still in beta): https://connect.microsoft.com/InvitationUse.aspx?ProgramID=1587&InvitationID=IPDM-QX6H-7TTV&SiteID=14

    TechNet SCOM 2012 Deployment: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh278852.aspx

     

    Good Luck with deploying SCOM 2012!

    Best regards
    Bjørn-Erik

    • Proposed as answer by Graham Davies Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:06 PM
    • Marked as answer by Graham Davies Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10 PM
    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:26 AM
  • hi, and additional inf. about " Is it possible to import Custom management packs from 2007  into SCOM 2012?" 

    here there is a good compatibility but something changed.. see

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/momteam/archive/2011/10/24/migrating-operations-manager-2007-network-monitoring.aspx

    • Proposed as answer by Graham Davies Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:06 PM
    • Marked as answer by Graham Davies Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10 PM
    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:54 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    Yes, it's definitely possible to run them both side-by-side. You can use a multihomed (reporting to both management groups, agent must be an OpsMgr 2012 agent) agents during the transition, or you can move the agents from one MG to another.

    Yes, your DW data will not move to another MG.


    http://OpsMgr.ru/

    • Proposed as answer by Graham Davies Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:06 PM
    • Marked as answer by Graham Davies Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10 PM
    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:59 AM
  • Hi,

    Yes, is the short answer. Everything you mention is possible. I recommend doing a fresh install when moving from 2007 R2 to 2012. It's also a great way to clean up your environment and start fresh by moving parts of your environment over one bit at the time. When you push the 2012 agent to servers already Reporting to the 2007 R2 management Group (MG) the 2012 agent will continue to report to the old 2007 R2 MG as well as your new one (agent multi homing). When you are satisfied with your 2012 configuration you simply use the Control Panel applet (Operations Manager Agent), or a script to make the agent stop reporting to your old MG.

     

    For custom management packs I'm not entierly sure that you can import them out of the box. SCOM 2012 has a RMS emulator so that should not be a problem, but you have to import any MPs that your custom MP requires. Maybe someone here can give you a better answer for this question, it should be possible with some manual work. 

     

    No, you can't keep your old OperationsManager DB and DW with your new 2012 MG, you can keep the old servers running as long as you need the data for reporting purposes though.

    I recommend that you download the SCOM 2012 IPD from the Microsoft Connect site (even though it's still in beta): https://connect.microsoft.com/InvitationUse.aspx?ProgramID=1587&InvitationID=IPDM-QX6H-7TTV&SiteID=14

    TechNet SCOM 2012 Deployment: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh278852.aspx

     

    Good Luck with deploying SCOM 2012!

    Best regards
    Bjørn-Erik

    • Proposed as answer by Graham Davies Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:06 PM
    • Marked as answer by Graham Davies Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10 PM
    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:26 AM
  • hi, and additional inf. about " Is it possible to import Custom management packs from 2007  into SCOM 2012?" 

    here there is a good compatibility but something changed.. see

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/momteam/archive/2011/10/24/migrating-operations-manager-2007-network-monitoring.aspx

    • Proposed as answer by Graham Davies Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:06 PM
    • Marked as answer by Graham Davies Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10 PM
    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:54 PM