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Baseline not lining up with tasks in gantt chart. RRS feed

  • Question

  • In Project 2010 Professional I have saved a baseline and switched it on so I can see it below tasks in the gantt chart, but it doesn't line up with the tasks as it does in previous versions, some do, some don't, is this a bug, is there a fix? obviously I haven't entered any actuals yet
    Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:35 PM

Answers

  • Melissa --
     
    Hmm.  I am up to your challenge.  :)
     
    Digging deeper, I displayed the Tracking Gantt view in Microsoft Project 2010 for a Baselined project in which I had a task split.  In the Tracking Gantt view, I see a solid gray bar for the task with the task split, unlike the behavior you (and I) could see in Project 2007.  I double-clicked anywhere in the white part of the Tracking Gantt chart to display the Bar Styles dialog.  I did not expect to see an item called Baseline Split, which would be why the split was missing in the gray Gantt bar for the split task.  Surprise, surprise!  The Baseline Split item is included in the dialog about one-third of the way down the dialog.  Here�??s how to fix the problem:
    1. Double-click anywhere in the white part of the Tracking Gantt chart (you must apply the Tracking Gantt view in order for this to work).
    2. In the Bar Styles dialog, select the Baseline item.
    3. In the From column for the Baseline item, change the Baseline Start value to Baseline Estimated Start.
    4. In the To column for the Baseline item, change the Baseline Finish value to Baseline Estimated Finish.
    5. Select the Baseline Split item.
    6. For the Baseline Split item, also change the From and To items to Baseline Estimated Start and Baseline Estimated Finish as well.
    7. Click the OK button.
    Problem solved, at least in the active project.  To solve the problem for all future projects, click File > Organizer and copy the edited Tracking Gantt view from the active project (on the right side) to the Global.mpt file (on the left side).  Click the Yes button to overwrite the view.  By the way, you would need to teach all of your PMs how to follow this process as well, since they will have the same problem as you wish Baseline split task Gantt bars.
     
    Thanks for pressing your case.  It was fun helping you to work around what I believe is a design oversight in Microsoft Project 2010.  Hope this helps.
     

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:01 PM
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  • melnjim --
     
    I remember seeing this behavior in Microsoft Project 2010 prior to the release of Service Pack 1.  Have you updated your copy of the software with the latest Service Packs and Cumulative Updates?  If not, you should.  My software is updated with the latest SPs and CUs, and I do not have the problem you have.  Let us know and we will try to help.

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:03 PM
    Moderator
  • Thanks Dale

    I will download the Service Pack do you know where I get the CU's from? I thought it maybe this as I had problems with 2007 before the SP, I hope it works!

    Cheers

    Melissa


    Melissa Bone

    Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:56 PM
  • Melissa --
     
    Refer to this excellent blog site for information about getting Service Pack 1 and the latest Cumulative Update:
     
     
    Keep in mind that after you install SP1, you only need to install the latest Cumulative Update.  Hope this helps.
     

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:53 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Dale

    Thanks for that, I installed the SP1 32 bit as that is what I have it stated that I already had it, however, the version number doesn't match. Mine states 6112 and the SP is 6023...which seemed odd to me. Then I applied the first CU as it appeared to state that it fixed the problem and that I should only install the CU for the problem I have. This appeared to work apart from it still doesn't baseline split tasks properly, the bar goes straight across without marking the split as it always has done on previous versions. I then installed the latest CU as you suggested and this still didn't fix the split tasks issue. Have you used split tasks and baselined on 2010 professional...does it work for you? Also all of the CUs are platform x86 or x64 and I have x32, I installed x64, should I have used x86?

    Thanks

    Melissa


    Melissa Bone

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:07 AM
  • Melissa --
     
    No, when you save a Baseline in a project, the software does NOT capture task splits.  So, I can confirm the behavior you see.  Remember that when you save a Baseline in your project, the software captures 5 important task fields, which are the Duration, Start, Finish, Work, and Cost fields.  It does not capture any information related to task splits, so no CU is going to help your situation.  Hope this helps.

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:14 PM
    Moderator
  • Thanks

    Please see below the behavior I expected in 2010 which is showing in 2007. I noticed that the bar styles in both versions are exactly the same. Is this an oversight on Microsoft's part do you think?

    Thanks ever so much for taking the time to talk to me about this, you are very patient! :)

    Cheers, Melissa


    Melissa Bone

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:57 PM
  • Melissa --
     
    Yup, I see what you mean.  The behavior is definitely different between the 2007 and the 2010 versions of the software.  Today, you taught ME something new, my friend!  Thanks for that.
     
    As to whether this is by design, an oversight, or a bug, I cannot speculate since I do not work for Microsoft.  But the behavior with split tasks is definitely different when saving a baseline in the 2007 and 2010 versions.
     
    And as always, you are more than welcome for the help.  :)
     

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:46 PM
    Moderator
  • Thanks again,

    I don't know how I am going to explain that one away to my trainees, it will depend on whether they used 2007 before, I hope not!

    Do you think any of your colleagues may know an answer? if it isn't possible to fix it, then I will just state what you said earlier. Maybe someone will see this forum and add to it?

    Melissa


    Melissa Bone

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:38 PM
  • Melissa --
     
    Hmm.  I am up to your challenge.  :)
     
    Digging deeper, I displayed the Tracking Gantt view in Microsoft Project 2010 for a Baselined project in which I had a task split.  In the Tracking Gantt view, I see a solid gray bar for the task with the task split, unlike the behavior you (and I) could see in Project 2007.  I double-clicked anywhere in the white part of the Tracking Gantt chart to display the Bar Styles dialog.  I did not expect to see an item called Baseline Split, which would be why the split was missing in the gray Gantt bar for the split task.  Surprise, surprise!  The Baseline Split item is included in the dialog about one-third of the way down the dialog.  Here�??s how to fix the problem:
    1. Double-click anywhere in the white part of the Tracking Gantt chart (you must apply the Tracking Gantt view in order for this to work).
    2. In the Bar Styles dialog, select the Baseline item.
    3. In the From column for the Baseline item, change the Baseline Start value to Baseline Estimated Start.
    4. In the To column for the Baseline item, change the Baseline Finish value to Baseline Estimated Finish.
    5. Select the Baseline Split item.
    6. For the Baseline Split item, also change the From and To items to Baseline Estimated Start and Baseline Estimated Finish as well.
    7. Click the OK button.
    Problem solved, at least in the active project.  To solve the problem for all future projects, click File > Organizer and copy the edited Tracking Gantt view from the active project (on the right side) to the Global.mpt file (on the left side).  Click the Yes button to overwrite the view.  By the way, you would need to teach all of your PMs how to follow this process as well, since they will have the same problem as you wish Baseline split task Gantt bars.
     
    Thanks for pressing your case.  It was fun helping you to work around what I believe is a design oversight in Microsoft Project 2010.  Hope this helps.
     

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:01 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Dale

    This is an unrelated question, and I will post it separately, but I just thought you may pick this up quicker. Do you know when you insert a project within another, or a master and then you put an external link between the two projects that sometimes a project will move, and other times it stays where it is and the link line becomes longer. I thought it was normal for the successor to stay where it is as after all it is a project with its own start date, but I just did another one and the successor moved to the appropriate location to follow the task in the previous project....confused.com! am I missing something obvious, I hope it isn't another 2010 thing...I can't remember now what it should do u see.

    Any help appreciated.

    Thanks lots

    Melissa


    Melissa Bone

    Monday, August 27, 2012 9:01 PM
  • Melissa --
     
    I have never seen the behavior you are describing with cross-project links in subprojects of a master project.  However, I would invite others to comment if they have seen anything like what you describe.
     

    Dale A. Howard [MVP]
    VP of Educational Services
    msProjectExperts
    http://www.msprojectexperts.com
    http://www.projectserverexperts.com
    "We write the books on Project Server"

    Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:35 AM
    Moderator