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  • Hello All I am brand new to sharepoint in general and I am not familar with any of the versions. My company just got the licensing for sharepoint 2007 and I have been in charge of installing and setting it up. I was going to load 2007 on one of our test servers and starting to get to know it but at the same time would like to take some classes on it. I was just wondering if I should first start with getting to know sharepoint services 3.0  and then move onto sharepoint 2007 or if 2007 version is something I can just jump into. Both as a installation and a designing point of views.

    Thanks a lot,
    Chris   
    • Edited by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, June 12, 2009 7:18 PM "and needing guidance on how to learn it" added to Title
    Friday, June 12, 2009 5:51 PM

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  • It does not make any sense for you to be charged with installing and setting it up if you have knowledge of it.  SharePoint is not just a piece of software you install.  It is an enterprise system that must be planned for and architected with great expertise.  It's one thing for someone familiar with SharePoint to be given this task without having architect or admin experience, but it's quite another for someone who doesn't even know the first thing about it.  I would highly recommend speaking with your management to make sure they fully understand what SharePoint is, what it does, how big it is, and how important it is to perform proper planning.  What I don't understand is how someone made the decision to make a huge investment in CALs for all the users in your organization without even knowing what it is nor planning to bring in an expert consultant to architect the implementation.  Are you sure you have CALs for all your users?  MOSS itself requires server licenses for the software, SQL licenses for the SQL server software (per processor or per connection), and Client Access Licenses for each user of SharePoint.  Also, to user MOSS Enterprise,  you have to get additional Enterprise CALs on top of the Standard CALs.  WSS 3.0 (free software) is "SharePoint 2007" too, so don't get confused there.  It is just the foundational piece, though, and MOSS is the full version.  So, you need to start by verifying that you have all those licenses and know exactly what software is available for you to deploy.  If it ends up being Moss - whether standard or Enterprise - then you just go straight into training for that as it includes WSS 3.0.  They are not separate products that require different training except for the extra pieces MOSS offers.
    SharePoint Architect - Planet Technologies - 4-Year Microsoft Federal Partner of the Year (2005-2008)
    • Edited by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, June 12, 2009 7:20 PM "too" added for clarity.
    • Marked as answer by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, June 12, 2009 7:20 PM
    Friday, June 12, 2009 6:07 PM

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  • It does not make any sense for you to be charged with installing and setting it up if you have knowledge of it.  SharePoint is not just a piece of software you install.  It is an enterprise system that must be planned for and architected with great expertise.  It's one thing for someone familiar with SharePoint to be given this task without having architect or admin experience, but it's quite another for someone who doesn't even know the first thing about it.  I would highly recommend speaking with your management to make sure they fully understand what SharePoint is, what it does, how big it is, and how important it is to perform proper planning.  What I don't understand is how someone made the decision to make a huge investment in CALs for all the users in your organization without even knowing what it is nor planning to bring in an expert consultant to architect the implementation.  Are you sure you have CALs for all your users?  MOSS itself requires server licenses for the software, SQL licenses for the SQL server software (per processor or per connection), and Client Access Licenses for each user of SharePoint.  Also, to user MOSS Enterprise,  you have to get additional Enterprise CALs on top of the Standard CALs.  WSS 3.0 (free software) is "SharePoint 2007" too, so don't get confused there.  It is just the foundational piece, though, and MOSS is the full version.  So, you need to start by verifying that you have all those licenses and know exactly what software is available for you to deploy.  If it ends up being Moss - whether standard or Enterprise - then you just go straight into training for that as it includes WSS 3.0.  They are not separate products that require different training except for the extra pieces MOSS offers.
    SharePoint Architect - Planet Technologies - 4-Year Microsoft Federal Partner of the Year (2005-2008)
    • Edited by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, June 12, 2009 7:20 PM "too" added for clarity.
    • Marked as answer by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, June 12, 2009 7:20 PM
    Friday, June 12, 2009 6:07 PM
  • If you were starting in your own time and with nothing already ordered, then I would have suggested starting with WSS 3.0 as it is easier to learn and everything you learn can be used later when you learn MOSS, BUT it is clear from what you write ("just got the licensing for sharepoint 2007") that your company has already ordered MOSS 2007, so as that is already a done thing and you are no doubt under time pressure you have no real choice but to start learning MOSS 2007.

    Microsoft has a lot of web casts for you to check

    (see this page for links to many of them: http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3%20Web%20Casts/AllItems.aspx

    There are also masses of books and you'll probably need the standard starter Admin Book (the Administrator's Guide by Bill English etc.) and a General book (I would recommend the one by Shane Perran and Amanda Murphy in your case although there are many other good ones).

    See here: http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3%20Web%20Casts/AllItems.aspx for a list of books divided into sections so you can find those and other books.

    WSS FAQ sites: http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com and http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com
    Total list of WSS 3.0 / MOSS 2007 Books (including foreign language) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3%20WSS%20FAQ/V%20Books.aspx
    • Proposed as answer by Clayton Cobb Friday, June 12, 2009 7:28 PM
    Friday, June 12, 2009 7:27 PM
  • Thanks for the info Clayton. Actually its just going into a testing enviorment for now so we can learn of all what it can do and then format and reload it if need be at any time. As far as the licenses we have open end licenses for a lot of microosoft's software.Also the people that have made the decision for installing this server do know more than me about it features they give the task to me to load it so I can learn how it works and what it can do which is exactly why i want to take classes and am now doing some research on it.Plus we aren't that big of a company about 200 users. Most of the stuff we do install here is through just loading stuff in a test envioremnt on a box and reading and taking courses on it and learning about it that way.
    Thanks again for the information.
    Chris
    Friday, June 12, 2009 7:31 PM
  • I wrote about my own personal process here: http://paulgalvin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!1CC1EDB3DAA9B8AA!989.entry

    It's a little more developer focused, but gives you a sense of what's involved.

    Welcome to the SharePoint world!


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      Microsoft MVP - SharePoint
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    Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:16 PM