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  • Hello

    I have a question: is it possible to make all users that logon to the computer use the same profile folder on the disk?

    We are in a school environment and we use a pci-card that prevents persistent data saving to the hard disk, so everytime the computer restarts all changes are undone and the computer starts as it was the first time it's being started.

    The problem is: user profiles aren't being saved to the disk neither. So everytime someone logs on to the computer, it's as it's the first time the user logs on and a new profile folder is being created. This makes loging on extremely slow (but when you logon with a user who already has his profile folder on the disk, it's very fast).

    We are searching for a way to speed up the logon process for our users and we think, if it would be possible to place one profile folder on the disk that can be used by everyone who logs on to the computer (with his or her own credentials of course), this could be a solution.

    But we just don't know if this is possible (and if it is, then how to do it) or if there are other solutions for the slow logon problem we experience.

    Thanks a lot for some help!

    Kind regards

    Geoffrey

    Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:05 PM

Answers

  • Hello Geoffrey,

    First you want to all user use only one profile, In that case the same "desktop, document and other local setting of profile" getting to all user. 

    This may config, Sopose some user bookmark some thing or change some settings in his profile and other user dont like this then?????????????

    In mandatory profile can solve some login time, Because in mandatory profile you cannot change anything in your profile and once you login on any system then again dont take more time.

    But i have idea you can do both of them.

    In user profile login and logoff time take more by loading desktop and document. Then you can redirect user desktop and document folder to a new folder (Ex. Name-Oneprofile) in a network path with shared and permission for all of user.

    and do this for all user and redirect to the same folder (oneprofile).

    In redirection of folder - All user use same desktop and document at a time in the network.

     

    And also all users save our settings accoring to.

     

    Thanks & Regards

     


    Rakesh Kumar
    • Edited by YourITadmin Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:08 PM Space was extra
    • Marked as answer by Niki Han Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:10 AM
    Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:48 PM

All replies

  • Geoffrey,

    It sounds like you would need to setup a mandatory profile for all users on the host system. Have a look at this article and pay special atention to creating and assigning.

    Shared user accounts
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg241180(WS.10).aspx

    Creating a Mandatory User Profile
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg241183(WS.10).aspx

    Assigning a Mandatory User Profile
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg241178(WS.10).aspx

    Don't forget this link it's a good read, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973289

    Have fun,
    sh

     

    Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:22 PM
  • Geoffrey,

    It sounds like you would need to setup a mandatory profile for all users on the host system. Have a look at this article and pay special atention to creating and assigning.

    Shared user accounts
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg241180(WS.10).aspx

    Creating a Mandatory User Profile
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg241183(WS.10).aspx

    Assigning a Mandatory User Profile
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg241178(WS.10).aspx

    Don't forget this link it's a good read, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973289

    Have fun,
    sh

     

     


    Thanks for your reply!

    In fact, Mandatory profiles is what we are using now... but this is also what we think is causing the slow logon process... everytime a user logs on a copy of the man-profile is being created and some first-logon actions are being taken.

    We can see that when we logon with a user assigned a man-profile in persisted mode, a user folder still exists in de Users-folder on the system after loging off (although all changes are deleted and the man-profile is being loaded the next time we logon with this user). Users who logon in persisted mode can logon much faster every next time they logon to the system. But there are too many users loging on too many computers to let everyone logon in persisted mode on every computer...

    Is there a solution? Or are we doing something with the man-profiles?

    :)

    Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:06 AM
  • Getting a fast login right after boot in windows 7 with a lot of apps installed is difficult.  Excessive drive seeking can make disk operations 10x slower.  Active setup doesn't help.  How is it if you wait 5 minutes after boot?  What if you don't reboot after every login?  Make sure Readyboot is working.  c:\windows\prefetch\readyboot\trace1.fx should be updated after every boot.  This is similar to the difficulties people using Deepfreeze have.

     

     



    • Edited by JS2010 Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:01 PM
    Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:00 PM
  • Hello Geoffrey,

    First you want to all user use only one profile, In that case the same "desktop, document and other local setting of profile" getting to all user. 

    This may config, Sopose some user bookmark some thing or change some settings in his profile and other user dont like this then?????????????

    In mandatory profile can solve some login time, Because in mandatory profile you cannot change anything in your profile and once you login on any system then again dont take more time.

    But i have idea you can do both of them.

    In user profile login and logoff time take more by loading desktop and document. Then you can redirect user desktop and document folder to a new folder (Ex. Name-Oneprofile) in a network path with shared and permission for all of user.

    and do this for all user and redirect to the same folder (oneprofile).

    In redirection of folder - All user use same desktop and document at a time in the network.

     

    And also all users save our settings accoring to.

     

    Thanks & Regards

     


    Rakesh Kumar
    • Edited by YourITadmin Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:08 PM Space was extra
    • Marked as answer by Niki Han Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:10 AM
    Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:48 PM
  • Hi,

     

    I am currently standing by for an update from you and would like to know how things are going. If you have any feedback, please let us know.

     

    Niki

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    Niki Han

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    Monday, January 16, 2012 3:00 AM
  • Hello

    Thank you all for your replies and help!!

    We currently are using mandatory profiles (placed on the local C: drive) but it doesn't seem to really speed up the logon process, although it is a good solution to provide all users with the same desktop environment.

    We can't really benefit from the readyboot technology as all changes are undone after every boot as we use a reborn card (indeed a system just like deepfreeze) to prevent unwanted changes being made to the computers (or virusses being loaded) by our students.

    I guess the drive seek operations at logon time as mentioned by JS2010 is what is indeed partially causing our logon times very long.

    But we also experience very strange and annoying network problems at logon time.

    As we have a school environment, all studens logon to the computers at the same time (this is at the start of the class). This way we have approximately 400 logons in the first 10 minutes of every hour, and none for the rest of the hour. We have only one active directory domain controller to serve the whole network, and it's a virtual machine hosted on a hyper-v (there are 3 virtual machines hosted on this hyper-v: DC, DATA-server and WSUS-server with App-V). The network is old (slow switches and old utp-cables) and new switches and cat-6 network cables are being placed in the next 2 years... but meanwhile we have to use this older network infrastructure.

    What we experience:

    1. random computers can't logon to the network with the error-message: no domain controller is available

    2. random computers don't get their GPO's and GPP's (they do get them when a gpupdate command is being executed manually)

    3. random computers don't get their App-V virtualized applications (they do get them when a sftmime /refresh command is being executed manually).

     

    At this moment we just don't know exactly what is causing all this trouble...

    All suggestions and help is welcome!!!

    Thank you very much!

    :)

    Monday, January 16, 2012 8:42 AM
  • Can you disable erasing changes after a reboot temporarily?  Then you can reboot the computer 5x with maybe a 60 sec rest in between and train readyboot.  Then turn the lock back on.  Also, if your boot process is too complex, the bootplan will get too large and readyboot can break.  That's what this hotfix is for:

    "The Windows 7 startup process is slow when you create many restore points"

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2555428/

     

    Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:51 PM
  • Hi,

     

    I think the network issue is not a simply client performance issue. To address the issue better, I recommend posting in Server Networking forum. Sorry for the inconvenience.

     

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverPN/threads

     

    Regarding the mandatory profiles issue, since the previous suggestions is helpful, I will mark it as "Answered". It will help other people who encounter the similar scenarios.

     

    BTW,  we'd love to hear your feedback about the solution. By sharing your experience you can help other community members facing similar problems. Thanks for your understanding and efforts.

     

    Niki

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    Niki Han

    TechNet Community Support

    Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:09 AM