Hey, thanks for your response, the updates only happened once, i just posted here after i tried restarting to apply networking changes that didn't seem to apply once i had changed them, i went to restart and it locked up closing down, however upon restart (not in safe mode since this was before my post) the networking options were fine.
The only other troubles i have ever had since i got this computer was to do with my web cam a month ago, i discovered that something weird with my sound was happening and i couldn't find any solution till i found some1 saying they had my cam and un-installing the drivers fixed the sound issues, and thinking about it, if it effected my sound im sure it could effect something else small like this.
That is the only thing i can think of that has ever given me issues and also wasnt reading right in device manager, but thought i fixed it, maybe it might be it, thats causing this.
Its a shame i don't know a sure-fire way to cause the problem thus test this theory =\
