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Some VERY basic questions about BizTalk/HIS 2010 RRS feed

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  • Aloha,

    I am very new BT/HIS. I am trying to find some very basic information but am having problems.

    Where we are - We have Attachmate SNA Gateway and Host Print Services (circa 2003) running on a Dell GX110 (circa 2000) with proprietary SNA ISA cards  that connects us to an IBM mainframe in Honolulu. We have been waiting and waiting for them to make the sessions available via IP, but it just ain't happening. We are about to begin migrating to Windows 7, but have found that a Windows 7 machine running Attachmate's Extra client will not connect to a session. So now we find ourselves forced into seeking a new gateway product. Our counterparts on Hawai`i Island were pretty much in the same position we are, and made the jump to HIS 2006. I found out that HIS 2006 just entered extended support. So it appears out best move is to use the 2010 version.

    What we want - We want a system that will allow us to connect to the mainframe via SNA. We need both display and printer sessions. Nothing more - no fancy integration, no Microsoft marketing babble. We want sessions. Period.

    Will Biztalk '10 and HIS '10 do this??  And if so - where can I find  simple and to the point configuration instructions (I have already downloaded the two software packages and the HTML Installation Guide)??  Does HIS run on top of BizTalk?? No special hardware needed??  What runs on the client end??

    I guess that's enough to start with.

    Mahalo,  Bill

    Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:25 PM

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  • Bill,

    The short answer is yes. HIS 2010 (just like previous versions) provides SNA gateway functions just like it has for the past 18+ years. It will meet the need for 3270 display and printer sessions.

    HIS 2010 is licensed via a BizTalk Server 2010 license. You can download the HIS 2010 Licensing FAQ from http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27553. You need to license BizTalk Server 2010, but you do not need to install it in this scenario.

    If you will be using HIS 2010, the connection option to the mainframe will likely be the IP-DLC link service, which integrates with IBM Enterprise Extender on the mainframe to provide SNA connectivity over an IP neetwork. This will likely be the most difficult part of the move to HIS as configuring 3270 sessions is relatively simple. If you want to use SDLC liek you did with the ISA adapters previously, then you need to find an SDLC adapter vendor that provides a link service for HIS 2010. There are a coupel of these still around, but not many customers use SDLC with HIS these days.

    For IP-DLC we offer a white paper at http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=17441 to provide some guidance on setting this up. We also recommend that you work with IBM on the Enterprise Extender side of things.

    We don't have any documents that does a step-by-step configuration that you are looking for.

    You always have the option of working with us via a supprot case to work through this. This is often the fastest way to get a HIS Server up and running.

    Thanks...


    Stephen Jackson - MSFT

    Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:11 AM
  • Forgot to address the client issue. We provide a HIS Client that provides the underlying mechaism of connecting to the HIS Servers for access to the LUs. We also include a basic 3270 emulator for display sessions. However, many customers use a 3rd party full-featured 3270 emulator (such as Attachmate) that can be configured to connect to HIS (or SNA) Server.

    Our basic 3270 Client does not support 3270 print sessions. We have a 3270 Print Service with HIS 2010 Server to central print sessions that can print to network attahced printers. If you need desktop print sessiosn via a 3270 emulator, then you'd need to stick with a 3rd party emulator.


    Stephen Jackson - MSFT

    Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:15 AM
  • Bill,

    Some really good TN3270 are for example :

    Quick 3270 : http://www.dn-computing.com/Quick3270.htm (best in price)

    Rumba : http://www.microfocus.com/products/rumba/rumba-product/index.aspx#Overview (best features)

    MochaSoft : http://www.microfocus.com/products/rumba/rumba-product/index.aspx#Overview (works on any device) :-)

    Best Regards,


    Steve Melan - BCEE My Blog : http://stevemelan.wordpress.com

    Friday, April 27, 2012 5:46 AM