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Really? This is your solution for people who choose NOT to have a PIN to sign in? RRS feed

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  • OK.  I am having the same issue as apparently hundreds of others.  In Windows 10, you either choose to have a PIN number to sign in, or you deal with having to tell your computer to "cancel" and then confirm that you REALLY don't want to have a PIN number? 

    I have seen all kinds of gobble dee gook computer speak solutions which involve me spending an hour to figure it out.  I tried one of the solutions, spent about 30 minutes doing it step by step.  And today, when I signed on, here came the request to sign up for a PIN number.

    It's probably not the right place to do this, but how about some smart computer person at Microsoft including the choice "NO, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A PIN NUMBER" on the same page as the one where you are FORCED to enter one?

    I'm growing weary of Microsoft and their demands on its customers, and its secretive ways of gathering information from its consumers.

    Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:03 PM

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  • The PIN is more secure than a password in most scenarios because it only works on the specific computer on which it was configured. This is how Microsoft implements multi-factor authentication in Windows 10. You can also use a fingerprint reader, camera or other hardware supported in the Windows Hello program. You can read more about this by searching Windows Passport or Windows Hello.

    If you want to disable the PIN prompt, and you are an organization administrator, you can control this through the Azure AD portal, or by a group policy that controls the AllowSignInOptions value.

    If you're just talking about your own personal computer, you may be able to use that registry key as well.

    This is discussed further in the following threads:

    • https://partnersupport.microsoft.com/en-us/par_clientsol/forum/par_win/how-to-disable-the-pin-setup-when-signed-in/23db0b51-a75f-43dc-8537-cfad285adf2f
    • https://superuser.com/questions/980090/remove-disable-pin-windows-10
    • https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/5c9d5ed5-877f-4bba-b5be-3be1b97580d3/windows-hello-pin-signin-option-disabling?forum=win10itprogeneral

    Mike Crowley | MVP
    My Blog -- Baseline Technologies

    Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:15 PM
  • The PIN is more secure than a password in most scenarios because it only works on the specific computer on which it was configured. This is how Microsoft implements multi-factor authentication in Windows 10. You can also use a fingerprint reader, camera or other hardware supported in the Windows Hello program. You can read more about this by searching Windows Passport or Windows Hello.

    If you want to disable the PIN prompt, and you are an organization administrator, you can control this through the Azure AD portal, or by a group policy that controls the AllowSignInOptions value.

    If you're just talking about your own personal computer, you may be able to use that registry key as well.

    This is discussed further in the following threads:

    • https://partnersupport.microsoft.com/en-us/par_clientsol/forum/par_win/how-to-disable-the-pin-setup-when-signed-in/23db0b51-a75f-43dc-8537-cfad285adf2f
    • https://superuser.com/questions/980090/remove-disable-pin-windows-10
    • https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/5c9d5ed5-877f-4bba-b5be-3be1b97580d3/windows-hello-pin-signin-option-disabling?forum=win10itprogeneral

    Mike Crowley | MVP
    My Blog -- Baseline Technologies

    Where is pinned info stored? If in the same place as password then not that much more secure to be worth bothering with.

    I too on a machine was laughing out loud at the cancel button that took me back to the start of process but did not cancel. I did remove it when signed in from account settings and has not as yet asked again.

    Tuesday, July 3, 2018 10:02 PM

  • Where is pinned info stored? If in the same place as password then not that much more secure to be worth bothering with.


    In the hardware TPM chip. Not on the hard drive, for reasons you allude to.

    Mike Crowley | MVP
    My Blog -- Baseline Technologies

    Monday, July 9, 2018 2:08 PM
  • Hi,

    We haven’t heard from you for a couple of days, have you solved the problem?  

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    Wednesday, July 11, 2018 8:48 AM
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