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  • Hi,

    I've searched through these and other forums for answers, so given it's been some time since the last topic on the subject I took it upon myself to lift this heavy burden :)

    We implemented agentless monitoring for a number of Gen8 and Gen9 servers using agentless monitoring. All is working great, but recently the customer purchased a batch of Gen10 servers. The Device Monitor Console won't discover them and the documentation I've found states support up to Gen9 only.

    Is this really the state of things? Has somebody found a way to monitor Gen10 servers? Preferably agentless. I don't think deploying OneView is a viable solution for the customer. Since we're talking ESX hosts (using the HP-branded host images for VMWare), an alternative would be to use the hardware monitoring that comes with vCenter and leverage that with Veeam's VMWare management pack. That however, comes with a fairly high cost.

    Thank you.

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    Jesper


    /Jesper Rune Larsen (https://enlightementthroughcuriousity.blogspot.dk/)

    Monday, April 30, 2018 12:04 PM

Answers

  • Hi Jesper,

    you are absolutely right - there is currently (as of time of writing) no possibility to monitor HP ProLiant Gen10 besides gathering the information over OneView and using the HPE OneView SCOM Integration Kit (v4.0).

    I am saying this, because I had the same challenge a couple of weeks ago and I event turned to HPE for more information. 

    The other alternative is like you've stated: using the Veeam Management Pack, which is very good and of course comes at a good price. I know that OpsLogix are also offering a VMWare MP, but I am not aware if it gather the hardware information form vCenter. I am also not aware how it relates to the Veeam Management Pack in terms of cost.

    It would be also very interesting for me to find out if somebody found a neat workaround to monitor those. The other option of course would be to write your own MP, but this is also not easy at all.

    Regards,


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    Monday, April 30, 2018 8:29 PM

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  • Hi Jesper,

    you are absolutely right - there is currently (as of time of writing) no possibility to monitor HP ProLiant Gen10 besides gathering the information over OneView and using the HPE OneView SCOM Integration Kit (v4.0).

    I am saying this, because I had the same challenge a couple of weeks ago and I event turned to HPE for more information. 

    The other alternative is like you've stated: using the Veeam Management Pack, which is very good and of course comes at a good price. I know that OpsLogix are also offering a VMWare MP, but I am not aware if it gather the hardware information form vCenter. I am also not aware how it relates to the Veeam Management Pack in terms of cost.

    It would be also very interesting for me to find out if somebody found a neat workaround to monitor those. The other option of course would be to write your own MP, but this is also not easy at all.

    Regards,


    (Please take a moment to "Vote as Helpful" and/or "Mark as Answer" where applicable. This helps the community, keeps the forums tidy, and recognizes useful contributions. Thanks!) Blog: https://blog.pohn.ch/ Twitter: @StoyanChalakov

    Monday, April 30, 2018 8:29 PM
  • Hi Stoyan,

    It's now July 2018, have you heard anything from HPE? I'm currently running OM1801 and at this stage it appears HPE only support monitoring GEN10 servers if you have HPE OneView (e.g. you import the MPs then add the OneView appliance).

    Steve

    DMC and DMS do not work with GEN10 Servers! GEN10 ILO5 although configured via SNMP to point to my OM1801 management Server returns no data in the HPE Agentless Server MP given the information below.

    I am currently using hpescomkit-x64-3.4.1.exe for Gen8 and Gen9 Servers
    HPE_OneView_for_Microsoft_System_Center_8.2.1_ZIP_April_2017_Z7550-02197

    HPE iLO 5 User Guide 1.15 ...no information on OM1801 or lower
    https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=a00018324en_us

    According to HPE Agentless Management
    https://www.hpe.com/us/en/product-catalog/detail/pip.5219980.html

    System Management Assistant (SMA) makes it possible for SNMP information from the iLO to be routed via the Operating System to consuming application.

    HPE Agentless Management and the transition from OS-based agents
    https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/V2/getpdf.aspx/4AA6-6053ENW.pdf

    Managing Mixed Environments with HPE SCOM Management Packs
    https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=c04347838

    HPE OneView Management Pack

    • The HPE OneView Management Pack monitors health of HPE devices managed by HPE OneView

    • It MUST be used for managing HPE Synergy and Gen10 servers

    HPE ProLiant Server Management Pack

    • It manages using either HPE SNMP agents or HPE WBEM providers

    • It supports ProLiant Gen9 and earlier servers

    • It can support multiple versions of Windows Server (see support matrix for details)

    • It does not require the use of the HPE Device Monitor Service (DMS)

    • It does not support HPE Synergy and Gen10 servers

    HPE ProLiant Agentless Management Pack

    The HPE ProLiant Agentless Management Pack monitors the health of HPE ProLiant Gen8 and Gen9 servers via the iLO4 management processor.

    • It does not require HPE SNMP agents or HPE WBEM providers

    • It is supported on ProLiant Gen8 and Gen9 servers only

    • It can support any operating system (see support matrix for details)

    • It requires the use of the HPE Device Monitor Service (DMS)

    • Installing the Agentless Management Service (AMS), an optional component provides additional operating system level information

    • It does not support HPE Synergy and Gen10 servers




    • Edited by DoJu Wednesday, July 4, 2018 5:55 AM
    Wednesday, July 4, 2018 5:46 AM
  • Hey,

    I know..I have been following this since a couple of months and I have the same findings. Will wait and see..

    Are you fine with closing the thread for now?

    Thanks for sharing,


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    Wednesday, July 4, 2018 8:08 PM
  • That's a shame, especially given that OneView 4 MP is really not that great at the moment :/
    Wednesday, July 4, 2018 8:13 PM
  • Stoyan, I will mark your reply as the answer - that there is no management pack and that one has to use OneView integration. I honestly think it is not acceptable that a company as big as HP do not support a platform as common as SCOM. If they did not have the solution already, I would be sort of more accepting, but since there are management packs that support the older generations I find it hard to believe that updating the management packs accordingly would be a big task. Sorry for my complaints, but I guess we all share the pain :)

    Have a great day and then you for your comments and thoughts on the subject.


    /Jesper Rune Larsen (https://enlightementthroughcuriousity.blogspot.dk/)

    Thursday, July 5, 2018 7:36 AM
  • Hi Jesper,

    HPE advised me of the following "HPE one view is the only solution to monitor hardware health on Gen10 servers." 

    Instead of using HPE OneView on top of OM1801 I decided to create a basic GEN10 Management Pack to discover and monitor GEN10 Servers using HPE SysInfoCmdlets (and Kevin Holman's SCOM Management Pack VSAE Fragment Library).

    E.G.
    $srvh = Get-HPESysInfoServerHealth
    $powerinfo = $srvh.PowerSupplyInfo.Status
    $powerinfo

    Returns Status OK, Warning or Error to the property bag.

    This is not optimal as the GEN10 servers will require pre-requisites to be installed and each Server to be rebooted:
    Windows Management Framework 5.1
    https://www.powershellgallery.com/packages/HPESysInfoCmdlets/1.1.0.1

    Steve



    • Edited by DoJu Wednesday, July 25, 2018 6:03 AM
    Wednesday, July 25, 2018 5:58 AM
  • Hi Steve,

    Would you be able to share the MP? we are currently running into the same issue.

    Kind regards,

    Marco

    Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:06 PM