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  • Hi, I remember browsing for SCOM Managment Packs on the System Center Management Pack Online Catalogue. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that management packs are now combined with Microsoft Pinpoint and as such, it's taking much much longer searching and filtering until I can find the microsoft created sealed managment pack I'm looking for. Please help me so that I can see 'n list of Microsoft created Managment packs for just the System Center Suite, without having to search everytime but rather have a fix list of them and then simply pick.

    Yes, I know about getting MPs from the SC Console "Download Mangement Packs..." but this does not any descriptions.

    The closest I could get of having such a list is this custom search, but even still it's a battle everytime: http://systemcenter.pinpoint.microsoft.com/en-US/PartnerDetails.aspx?PartnerId=4297702754&CurrentTab=1

    Let me elaborate to be clear please:

    Lets say your searching on the SC Pinpoint Marketplace for: "Microsoft CRM 2011 Management Pack" This gives you pages and pages of results. You now have to read each line, page by page, to realise at the end that this Management Pack does not yet exist. If there was a "fix" list of Microsoft MPs, then one would quickly seen that the lastest MP for CRM is actually 4.0. - This is just an example. 

    If I'm not doing this right, please do assist, but I'll do antying to get it the way it used to be - easy and fast.

    Thanks.

     

     

    Friday, June 3, 2011 2:52 PM

Answers

  • Use quotes around your phrases so you get exact match.  Also, just search for CRM and then filter by operations manager.


    Microsoft Corporation

    • Marked as answer by Dan Rogers Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:25 PM
    Monday, June 6, 2011 3:39 PM

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  • I hear you, and the feedback has been given to MSFT.  Unfortunately, this is how it is right now.  There have been a lot of improvements, but a list, like the old days, is probably not going to return.  Pinpoint is the direction MSFT is moving in.

    Regards, Blake Email: mengotto<at>hotmail.com Blog: http://discussitnow.wordpress.com/
    Friday, June 3, 2011 9:05 PM
  • http://systemcenter.pinpoint.microsoft.com/en-US/Default.aspx using the "search by products" really helps. on an operations manager search with keywords "CRM 2011" i got around 15 results and with a sort on release date combined with the "The applications we found match only part of your search criteria." you pretty much know there isnt a 2011 CRM mp.

    i also would prefer the previous list, but the recent changes they've made are acceptable. At least pinpoint doesn't seem to forget all the custom searches you've made before.

     


    Rob Korving
    http://jama00.wordpress.com/
    Saturday, June 4, 2011 8:59 AM
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    Hi,

     

    Thank you for your feedback.

     

    Regarding searching in Microsoft Pinpoint, please refer to the section “Tips on Searching Pinpoint” in the following page:

     

    Microsoft Pinpoint – Customer Help

    http://pinpoint.microsoft.com/en-US/help

     

    Meanwhile, you can also click “Contact Us” in the bottom of the page and submit your feedback.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

    Thanks.
    Nicholas Li - MSFT
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    Monday, June 6, 2011 5:51 AM
  • Blake/Rob/Nicholas,

    Thank you for your feedback. - I appreciate it.

    I bet that MS Pintpoint Team are doing a great job and I understand the reasoning 100%. Indexing(or Marketplaces in this case) is definately the right direction to go if you want dynamic list automation rather than static list publishing maintenance requiring man hours. In this case we have the Pinpoint engine idea, which is really great.

    "Microsoft product groups are aligning with the Pinpoint model to create marketplaces that specifically designed to help business customers find trusted experts, and applications and services that enhance and easily integrate specific Microsoft products."

    • Here's the good outlook: The Marketplace is set to grow exponentially.
    • Here's the sinister outlook: Thus Rob, expect the 15 results to grow exponentially. 

    MS won't move the MSDN/TechNet Libraries into Pinpoint because it has nothing to do with marketing but I want you to imagine that the accordion-type explorer menu system on the libraries is replaced with just the searchbox at the top.

    I'll thus resort to Microsoft's Download Center instead:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/resultsForProduct.aspx?displaylang=en&productId=9cd2c70f-f1de-4c4d-8ecb-1432951ce0c6&stype=ss_sd&nr=10&sortCriteria=Popularity&sortOrder=Ascending

    Anyway, I've made my point and resting.

    Thank you guys.




    Monday, June 6, 2011 7:42 AM
  • Use quotes around your phrases so you get exact match.  Also, just search for CRM and then filter by operations manager.


    Microsoft Corporation

    • Marked as answer by Dan Rogers Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:25 PM
    Monday, June 6, 2011 3:39 PM
  • I'm confused.  Blake - the default is the list - exactly like the old days with all of the same information.

    Want to see all of the MSFT management packs in order by date, most recent first?  Click on the "Microsoft System Center Content link".

    Want to find EVERY pack related to CRM?  Just type CRM!  Typing CRM gets you exactly one MP from microsoft, plus three other items from third parties.  No fuss, no muss.

    I have given the Pinpoint team feedback that if I type more words, I expect a first pass with exactly the words (like google and bing do) and only when that returns poor result count, resort to individual words.  Their response is 'this tests the best'.

     


    Microsoft Corporation
    Monday, June 6, 2011 9:44 PM
  • Not quite the same.  The old page listed everything on one page (from what I remember), you didn't have to click next next next if there were multiple returns.   Regardless, this has much improved since the initial move.


    Regards, Blake Email: mengotto<at>hotmail.com Blog: http://discussitnow.wordpress.com/
    Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:19 PM