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  • Found from some of the websites that states that Microsoft will ship a desktop composition engine that is from Vista to other version of windows like xp and server 2003 that will eventually use the power of 3d display card(DX9). Although not good looking as aero, that will eventually use the power of graphic card to render desktop stuff like clear type font, and no more white tear spaces when windows or applications is moved around desktop.  Is it true or just a rumor?

     

    Thanks for any reply or opinions...   :)

     

     

    Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:03 PM

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  • not sure if this is the best forum to get those questions anwsered, the MSDN forums have more coders then here, you can try over at msdn.microsoft.com

     

     

    Friday, July 14, 2006 3:20 AM
  •  onlyjamesbond wrote:

    Found from some of the websites that states that Microsoft will ship a desktop composition engine that is from Vista to other version of windows like xp and server 2003 that will eventually use the power of 3d display card(DX9). Although not good looking as aero, that will eventually use the power of graphic card to render desktop stuff like clear type font, and no more white tear spaces when windows or applications is moved around desktop. Is it true or just a rumor?

    Thanks for any reply or opinions... :)


    "James Bond",

    That is not true. Microsoft will NOT release a "fix" or "update" or "service pack" to make Windows XP look "better." In fact, Microsoft is so sure that everyone will change to Longhorn(sorry, I am used to calling it Longhorn) when it comes out, that they won't even bother about Windows XP. And pretty soon, Windows XP will vanish just like Windows 3.X, or Windows N.T. or 2000, 98. No body bothers to have the second-best or third-best or fourth-best o.s. Eveyone wants to have the new Vista(Longhorn).

    Vista = Longhorn
    Longhorn = Springboard
    Springboard = 3000933995003059939939_Long_Horn_999994332.55
    Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:12 AM
  •  JAHED wrote:

    "James Bond",

    That is not true. Microsoft will NOT release a "fix" or "update" or "service pack" to make Windows XP look "better." In fact, Microsoft is so sure that everyone will change to Longhorn(sorry, I am used to calling it Longhorn) when it comes out, that they won't even bother about Windows XP. And pretty soon, Windows XP will vanish just like Windows 3.X, or Windows N.T. or 2000, 98. No body bothers to have the second-best or third-best or fourth-best o.s. Eveyone wants to have the new Vista(Longhorn).

    Just a couple of things...

    1.) I read the same "rumors" a while back on ZDNet and other sources - that XP SP3 or thereabouts was supposed to have retroengineered versions of Avalon and a couple of the other major modules - like WinFS - which, of course, has since been dropped from the game plan. At least you can date these rumors as it was still a part of the Longhorn package.

    Of course, you DO make a valid point of sorts - why upgrade XP with Vista's goodies which doesn't pay Microsoft any dividends when they can make some semblance of a profit or at least a return on their investment by getting people to upgrade.

    And besides.. XP SP1 has already got it's death sentence... It will be put out to pasture soon enough.

    2.) Good thing you're making such bold claims in a Microsoft friendly environment about Vista being the best... Pretty much anywhere else, thems be fighting words especially with the Mac fanbois and Linux Jihadists circles and the start of a rather nasty flame war...

     

    Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:58 AM
  • JAHED

    If MS doesn't care about XP then why are IE7, Windows Defender, WMP 11 (All with the Vista interface) being developed for XP? Why would they take the time to develop products for a second-best OS. What is planned for SP3 hasn't even been released yet.

    Monday, July 24, 2006 2:29 PM
  •  SAM-R wrote:

    JAHED

    If MS doesn't care about XP then why are IE7, Windows Defender, WMP 11 (All with the Vista interface) being developed for XP? Why would they take the time to develop products for a second-best OS. What is planned for SP3 hasn't even been released yet.

     

    Sam,

     

    it isn't that MS doesn't want to, it is that they can't, they would have to rip out the current graphics engine to replace it with what Vista uses (based on avalon) that is something that they can't do with a simple patch or service pack. plus with them pushing vista so hard, it work against them to release a aero graphics like interface for XP. Don't hold out hopes of seeming something like that on XP

    Monday, July 24, 2006 6:13 PM
  • Microsoft DOES care about XP. In so far as it's their currently released (and only supported) OS. It's where the money's coming from, at least until Vista's released. 

    Windows Defender was originally developed for XP.

    IE7 is being developed for the same reasons that IE6 was also ported back to Windows 2000, ME and 98 - it makes sense to do so if for no other reason than it's so damn useful. I know I'm bloody well HOOKED on IE7 (Gotta LOVE tabs). Going back to a box with IE6 on it is just so...annoying. There will probably be a day when you need IE7 to access Windows Update for XP.

    Windows Media Player - the answer to that one is simple - DRM. Gotta be able to support the latest DRM technologies.

    That's NOT to say these technologies will be fully WDDM compliant - they'll just merge in with the existing XP graphical interface.

    Monday, July 24, 2006 9:02 PM