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SCCM 2012 R2 OSD Very slow at Driver package and config manager client stage still after KB2905002 has been applied

    Question

  • Hi,
    Now that I've applied KB2905002 and updated client, boot images etc, my image process is a lot faster again for most of the task. HOWEVER, it is still very slow at Apply Driver Package and Set up windows and config manager client.

    After that step has completed, everything is speedy again. It does not matter which computer model it is in the task, they are all slow at downloading - as in around 1 hour to download.

    The step in the task is just a WMI query on that model computer.
    Happens for Win 7 and Win 8.1.

    Anyone else having the same issue?


    • Edited by askzxy Monday, December 02, 2013 5:40 AM
    Monday, December 02, 2013 5:06 AM

Answers

  • Hi All

    Yes, Ive managed to sort this out!

    I found this suggestion on another post -Click here

    which fixed my issue.

    Went to my DP Properties, and ticked the below highlighted on both my DP's, saved and retested and driver package that took 4 or so mins prior to R2 being installed now takes about 4 mins again! 

    I will add this though from Microsoft Support though:

    "Allow clients to connect anonymously" enables the IIS anonymous authentication settings for the DP directories.

    This setting saves the below time:

    Single file's BITS downloading is quick and finished in about 1 seconds, but there was about 1-2 seconds delay between 2 files, which is the http request to retrieve the content length of the target file from DP’s IIS.

    Please consider and balance the security and downloading speed. If this setting is good and compliant to you and the huge driver package is required , that option "Allow clients to connect anonymously"  good.


    • Marked as answer by askzxy Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:59 AM
    • Edited by askzxy Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:12 AM
    Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:59 AM

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  • Hi askzxy,

    From expereince, I try to avoid using driver packages as the first option, as this increases the build time.

    I always use Auto Apply Drivers First, Use Driver packages for the probelematic drivers that are not picked up by the auto apply drivers step.


    • Edited by DoitRight39 Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:48 AM
    Monday, December 02, 2013 8:44 AM
  • KB2905002 only addressed an issue with downloading the image and has nothing to do with downloading any other content.

    How big are your driver packages? Are you selectively running the apply driver packages tasks using conditionals on the tasks?

    Have you reviewed smsts.log to see if there are any issues? Have you verified that these packages are coming from local DPs?


    Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com

    Monday, December 02, 2013 2:19 PM
  • From expereince, I try to avoid using driver packages as the first option, as this increases the build time.


    I disagree. I prefer using driver packages and I am avoiding the use of auto apply drivers.

    Torsten Meringer | http://www.mssccmfaq.de

    Monday, December 02, 2013 4:58 PM
  • Hi Torsten, Thanks for the constructive feedback, are you able to help us further as to why Auto Apply drivers should be avoided?

    I tend to use both the auto apply driovers and pacakges , but i always make sure that the correct drivers are installed.

    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:52 AM
  • Hi All,

    Here is a rundown of what’s happening.

    Before R2 update, everything was quick. No long download times for software packages, driver packages, boot images etc.

    R2 applied, Slow package downloads no matter what it was.

    KB2905002 applied, boot imaged updated, clients updated, boot image no longer slow to download, Operating system image no longer slow to download (bout 3 mins – 3.5gb) and most software packages are speedy again.

    BUT

    I am still having trouble with the Apply Driver package and the client install during the task.

    I ran a test this morning, it took about 45mins to download the hp elite 8300 driver package – it’s 890mb. Then the newly created patched client install for KB2905002 (175mb) takes around 2-3 mins to download. This was NOT an issue before R2.

    After the client has installed, and machine rebooted, most packages are speedy again.

    Office 2013 (700mb) about 1 min, Windows live Essentials (131mb) less than 30 sec.

    BUT then some packages are slow such as

    Google Earth (187mb) – 4 min, Adobe CS5 (10gb) 30 mins

    I have looked through the smsts.log on the local machine during WINPE stage and have found nothing that stands out as an issue.

    You can check logs here: http://sdrv.ms/1eJDscR

    As for using driver package vs auto apply, I would rather use a driver package. Personal choice.

    Driver packages are just WMI query to apply to correct model computer ( SELECT * FROM Win32_ComputerSystem WHERE Model LIKE '%HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF%' ).

    Packages are all coming from right DP for the boundary set.

    I am thinking for a test, to delete the HP Compaq Elite 8300 driver package from the DP and re-create.

    Also note, its not just this driver package, its any of them.

    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:31 AM
  • Hi Torsten, Thanks for the constructive feedback, are you able to help us further as to why Auto Apply drivers should be avoided?

    I tend to use both the auto apply driovers and pacakges , but i always make sure that the correct drivers are installed.

    Ultimately, there's no right or wrong answer to this question -- it's chaos vs. control.

    Here's are a couple of great blogs about this topic to help you make an informed decision:

    http://www.deployvista.com/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/82/language/en-US/Default.aspx

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/mniehaus/archive/2010/04/29/configmgr-2007-driver-management-the-novel-part-1.aspx


    Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com

    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:36 AM
  • Have you excluded the contentlib on the DP from anti-virus?

    Have you examined the iis.log and file system activity on the DP (using procmon or something similar) to see if it's a DP side issue?


    Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com

    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:38 AM
  • Hi

    here is an extract from iis log for today in W3SVC1:

    This is the computer currently reimaging and at the driver package install stage- no 400 for 401 errors

    0.20.1.18 GET /SMS_MP/.sms_pol %7B5f5389d6-e8bd-4cf0-96ab-59f006f52ef0%7D.354_00 80 - 10.40.1.7 Microsoft+BITS/7.5 - 200 0 0 10775 2
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_MP/.sms_pol %7B5f5389d6-e8bd-4cf0-96ab-59f006f52ef0%7D.354_00 80 - 10.40.1.7 Microsoft+BITS/7.5 - 200 0 0 10777 1
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNC64.cpl 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 206 0 0 1821477 2332
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNCPL.cpl 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 200 0 64 0 3
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_MP/.sms_pol %7B5f5389d6-e8bd-4cf0-96ab-59f006f52ef0%7D.354_00 80 - 10.40.1.7 Microsoft+BITS/7.5 - 200 0 0 2659 2
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNCPL.cpl 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 206 0 0 1785637 2308
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNGUI.exe 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 200 0 64 0 3
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNGUI.exe 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 206 0 0 7866149 2368
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNGUI.exe.config 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 200 0 0 385 1
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNGUI.exe.config 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 206 0 0 430 2
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNHP.dll 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 200 0 64 0 2
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNHP.dll 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 206 0 0 7678757 2353
    10.20.1.18 GET /SMS_DP_SMSPKG$/SOC0004C/sccm /28FA88EB-B8AB-438A-AE4F-EC81E541AA0D/IDTNJ.exe 80 OOO\SMSadmin 10.40.1.47 SMS+CCM+5.0+TS - 200 0 0 253167 2

    I have just checked what the anti v is excluding and its doing everything in %programfiles%\Microsoft configuration manager\inboxes

    Have also just excluded my contentlib dir also from anti v.


    • Edited by askzxy Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:21 AM
    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:13 AM
  • Thanks Jason..
    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:33 AM
  • How about the BITs configuration, Any special configurations that have been applied? 
    Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:36 AM
  • nope nothing.

    I have not changed anything from default BITs settings at all, before R2 or after R2 install.

    I have opened a Support case with Microsoft. Lucky I had some free ones from my TechNet Subscription.....


    • Edited by askzxy Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:48 AM Typo
    Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:48 AM
  • Thanks for keeping us updated, I am very curios of what the result will be.. all the best. please make sure you vote and mark the answer that solves the problem.
    Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:56 AM
  • Hi,

    We're facing the same issue. Did you get to a solution?

    Kind regards

    -Walter-


    Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:01 AM
  • Hi,

    No still working with Microsoft on this one.

    They have also just reported that some other users are having the same issue.

    We are just putting up with it for the moment....

    Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:13 AM
  • Same overhere before R2 TS was fast and we had no problems, after R2 boot slow and apply drivers very slow high CPU and bandwith.

    After KB2905002 the PXE boot was normal but still the probelm exsists of slow applying drivers etc. so I've took the old boot images from before R2 and there were no problems at all.

    Question wich boot images must i use the standard SCCM 2012 R2 ones or must i create new ones from the ADK kit?


    Update; I used the standard sccm boot images from R2 but Apply driver pack still very slow, and every step after "ïnstall configmgr client" step wil not be run
    • Edited by Harmen1966 Friday, January 17, 2014 12:40 PM update
    Friday, January 17, 2014 7:58 AM
  • Problem solved by enableing ipv6 on the dp server everything works fine now.

    Thanks, Harmen

    Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:55 PM
  • Harmen,

    That's great its fixed for you.

    I just checked if ipv6 was enabled on our DP's and it is, so must be something else for us..

    Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:09 AM
  • did you open up a dosbox during apply driver package and ping the DP server?

    Thanks, Harmen

    Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:51 AM
  • Has anyone found another solution to this?

    We are experiencing the exact issue after applying R2.

    Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:06 AM
  • Hi All

    Yes, Ive managed to sort this out!

    I found this suggestion on another post -Click here

    which fixed my issue.

    Went to my DP Properties, and ticked the below highlighted on both my DP's, saved and retested and driver package that took 4 or so mins prior to R2 being installed now takes about 4 mins again! 

    I will add this though from Microsoft Support though:

    "Allow clients to connect anonymously" enables the IIS anonymous authentication settings for the DP directories.

    This setting saves the below time:

    Single file's BITS downloading is quick and finished in about 1 seconds, but there was about 1-2 seconds delay between 2 files, which is the http request to retrieve the content length of the target file from DP’s IIS.

    Please consider and balance the security and downloading speed. If this setting is good and compliant to you and the huge driver package is required , that option "Allow clients to connect anonymously"  good.


    • Marked as answer by askzxy Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:59 AM
    • Edited by askzxy Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:12 AM
    Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:59 AM