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    A couple of headings on Microsoft's Configuration Manager Licensing page [http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/en/us/configuration-manager/cm-pricing-licensing.aspx * ] now say "How to Buy Configuration Manager 2007 R3" and "Before You Buy Configuration Manager 2007 R3". 

    Does this mean that anyone who buys SCCM 2007 from now on will be licensed for R3?  Or do you still need EA or SA to get R2 and R3, regardless of when purchased? 

    Also, is there any news about the release date for R3 download? 

    [ * I can't get the forum's "Add link" button to work]

    Monday, September 20, 2010 4:12 AM

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    Also notice that the ONLY thing on the page you linked to that mentions R3 is the page title. Everything else on that page talks about R2. R3 is not yet available so I dout there's a SKU that will let you purchase it.

     

    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum |
    • Marked as answer by Darrn Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:08 AM
    Monday, September 20, 2010 12:26 PM
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    So if someone buys SCCM today without SA, they would have to buy: SCCM site server license, R2 license, and Enterprise CAL pack / client MLs? 

    (I'm not talking about an existing non-R2 customer wanting to upgrade, but rather someone who's never had any System Center product before.) 

    Not exactly.... When you purchase SCCM you own the current "R" version, that's not sold seperately. For instance if you purchased SCCM at RTM time you only own RTM, if you purchased after R2 was released you own R2, the same will go for R3 once it's released. However if you purchased at R2 time without SA you have to totally repurchase SCCM to get R3. When I say repurchase I mean all licenses for server and client.

    Unfortunately I know this because we do not have SA. :-(

     

    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum |
    Friday, September 24, 2010 12:14 PM

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    Hi,

    R3 is a feature pack for SA customers. There is no confirmed release date yet (to my knowledge).

    Kent Agerlund | http://scug.dk/members/Agerlund/default.aspx | The Danish community for System Center products
    Monday, September 20, 2010 5:03 AM
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    To expand on what kent is said... "R" versions of SCCM are never free. If you purchase SCCM R3 then you will own it. If you purchase SCCM R2 without SA then you will have to totally repurchase SCCM in order to get R3. There's no upgrade license available. Anyone who purchases SCCM without SA should seriously reconsider their licensing strategy IMO.

     

     

    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum |
    Monday, September 20, 2010 12:23 PM
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    Also notice that the ONLY thing on the page you linked to that mentions R3 is the page title. Everything else on that page talks about R2. R3 is not yet available so I dout there's a SKU that will let you purchase it.

     

    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum |
    • Marked as answer by Darrn Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:08 AM
    Monday, September 20, 2010 12:26 PM
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    Hi,

    There is no confirmed release data for SCCM R3.

    Have a look at http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/en/us/configuration-manager/cm-r3.aspx and this short video - http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/en/us/configuration-manager.aspx on R3 OS deployment.

    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread.
    • Marked as answer by Eric Zhang CHN Monday, October 11, 2010 3:27 AM
    • Unmarked as answer by Darrn Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:08 AM
    Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:30 AM
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    "R" versions of SCCM are never free. If you purchase SCCM R3 then you will own it. If you purchase SCCM R2 without SA then you will have to totally repurchase SCCM in order to get R3.

    So if someone buys SCCM today without SA, they would have to buy: SCCM site server license, R2 license, and Enterprise CAL pack / client MLs? 

    Where the site says, for example, "Configuration Manager Server 2007 R2 $579 U.S.", I would have thought the price included R2. 

    (I'm not talking about an existing non-R2 customer wanting to upgrade, but rather someone who's never had any System Center product before.) 

     

    >> There's no upgrade license available. Anyone who purchases SCCM without SA should seriously reconsider their licensing strategy IMO.

    Agree.  I hope we were advised to buy SA when SCCM was sold to us (I don't have login for our Microsoft Licensing, so I can't check by myself.) 

    Friday, September 24, 2010 6:31 AM
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    So if someone buys SCCM today without SA, they would have to buy: SCCM site server license, R2 license, and Enterprise CAL pack / client MLs? 

    (I'm not talking about an existing non-R2 customer wanting to upgrade, but rather someone who's never had any System Center product before.) 

    Not exactly.... When you purchase SCCM you own the current "R" version, that's not sold seperately. For instance if you purchased SCCM at RTM time you only own RTM, if you purchased after R2 was released you own R2, the same will go for R3 once it's released. However if you purchased at R2 time without SA you have to totally repurchase SCCM to get R3. When I say repurchase I mean all licenses for server and client.

    Unfortunately I know this because we do not have SA. :-(

     

    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum |
    Friday, September 24, 2010 12:14 PM
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    Thanks for the clarification, John. 

    I was getting confused with all the talk of buying R2 or R3 versus "R3 is a feature pack".  I guess you say that you buy SCCM licenses with a current feature release level; then those licenses allow you to download and install the corresponding feature packs as separate add-ons. 

    So going back to my original question, where the licensing page says "How to Buy Configuration Manager 2007 R3", we're assuming that is a glitch, and that there won't be any SKU released for purchase before R3 is out of beta and the RTW bits are available for download, right? 

    Darren

    Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:08 AM
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    The only way to get an authoritative answer is calling a MS licensing specialist IMHO.
    Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:19 AM
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    I'd agree that the listing of R3 on that site is just someone at MS jumping the gun on updating that website. Obviously you can't buy R3 before it's released. Again, IMO it's a mistake to purchase SCCM without SA. If you purchase SA all of these worries go away.
    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum |
    Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:19 PM