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  • Question

  • I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate. I have Virtual PC installed so I can use XP Mode. I'd like to download and try out the Windows Server 2003 VHD . In order to do this it says I need Virtual Server. Is it safe to have these both Virtual PC and Virtual Server on the same Windows 7 PC without issues? I'm going to do this on my everyday PC that meets all requirements.

    Thanks


    James A+, Network+, MCP

    Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:17 PM

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  • Which Virtual PC? 2007 or Windows Virtual PC? 

    If it's 2007 you can run it together with Virtual Server, but realize that its nearly impossible to install Virtual Server on Windows 7. 

    I don't know of anyone who's run Virtual Server and Windows Virtual PC (the one that installs with XP Mode)

    What VHD are you referring to?  There is really only two reasons you'd need Virtual Server: a 2nd vCPU and/or a virtual SCSI hard drive (which allows data VHDs to be larger than 127GB).  No version of VPC allows for multiple CPUs or anything except 127GB IDE virtual hard drives.

    Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:57 AM
  • Are they both free???? I didn't relize there was 2 VPC's plus Virtual Server. It's the one they give you with XP mode. I'm referring to the Technet Windows Server 2003 R2 VHD. The reason I wan't it is to practice a few things and look around more before I take a test. I'd also like the use the 2008 VHD for the same purpose.

    Thanks


    James A+, Network+, MCP

    Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:22 AM
  • James you need to understand What Exactly is Windows XP Mode?Windows XP Mode (or XPM for short) is a new feature of Windows 7 (available only in the Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate editions) that can help businesses to upgrade their computers to Windows 7. It does so by providing a virtual Windows XP environment capable of running many Windows XP-compatible business and productivity applications. By using Windows Virtual PC you can now run many older business and productivity applications that only work in Windows XP on your Windows 7 machine. This is made possible by installing these applications inside the Windows XP virtual machine, and integrating them with your Windows 7 desktop and start menu. This way, you can launch these applications from the Windows 7 desktop or Start menu with just a single click, and have them integrate seamlessly with the Windows 7 environment.

    Here are some of new features in Windows Virtual PC that make it easier for you to run your legacy applications in a virtual software environment:

    • The ability to use many of your USB devices from within a virtual Windows environment, such as Windows XP Mode.
    • Seamless launching of Windows XP applications from your Windows 7 desktop, Start Menu, or Taskbar.
    • Clipboard sharing, which enables you to cut, copy, and paste data between the host Windows 7 desktop and the virtual machine.
    • Printer sharing between the Windows 7 desktop and the virtual Windows environment.
    • Drive sharing, which provides easy access to all host data from within the virtual machine.
    • Folder integration between operating environments

    Unfortunately, Virtual PC only supports 32-bit virtual machines. If you want to run any 64-bit virtual machine you'll need to either install Windows Server 2008 + Hyper-V, or use a 3rd-party virtualization program such as VMware Workstation or Sun Virtual Box (free).

    Thanks ! Ashok



    • Edited by Ashokkr Friday, April 20, 2012 3:17 PM
    Friday, April 20, 2012 3:16 PM
  • Exactly, I know what XP Mode does. I'm not concerned with that. I am concerned that since I have XP mode and Virtual PC installed and I need Virual Server installed that there may be a conflict. My question was can I have Virtual PC and Virtual Server installed on the same Win 7 machine without issues.

    Thanks


    James A+, Network+, MCP

    Friday, April 20, 2012 4:59 PM
  • As far as I know, you can't.  Take a look at this thread on Virtual Server and Windows 7 to see if you really want to even go down the path of trying:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprovirt/thread/a98e77b7-95d4-444f-8dbc-630c98074436

    Instead, I'd suggest getting Oracle VirtualBox and use that instead.  It is supported under Windows 7, can coexist on the same machine as Windows VPC(but they can't run at the same time), is free, and has the extra emulated hardware you need.

    I was able to attach the VHD from this 2003 download to a new VM and boot it in VirtualBox. You'll need to use the keyboard for the first boot since the hardware is different and needs to be redetected.

    http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=24445 (Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition VHD)

    VirtualBox has a lot more functionality and usability than Virtual Server does.


    • Edited by essjae Friday, April 20, 2012 5:31 PM updated
    Friday, April 20, 2012 5:26 PM
  • In order to use this Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition VHD, you need to have Microsoft® Virtual Server 2005 R2 installed on a physical machine. If you do not have Virtual Server installed you can get this product free of charge from www.microsoft.com/virtualserver. Details of how to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 are included in the download and documentation that accompanies the product.

    Thanks !ashok

    Friday, April 20, 2012 6:50 PM
  • In order to use this Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition VHD, you need to have Microsoft® Virtual Server 2005 R2 installed on a physical machine. If you do not have Virtual Server installed you can get this product free of charge from www.microsoft.com/virtualserver. Details of how to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 are included in the download and documentation that accompanies the product.

    Thanks !ashok

    Have you read the previous posts?

    Virtual Server isn't supported on Windows 7, even if you get it installed, you can't use the SCSI feature, and finally, it can't coexist Windows VPC.

     
    Friday, April 20, 2012 7:00 PM
  • Oh I thought it was supported........ I don't understand why that guy keeps posting random stuff.

    James A+, Network+, MCP

    Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:09 AM
  • No, Virtual Server isn't supported on Windows 7 and its difficult to even install.

    Your best bet is VirtualBox for the 2003 VHDs.

    Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:39 AM
  • You can actually use Windows Virtual PC to run  Windows Server 2003 VHD .

    Just create a new Virtual Machine and select the respective VHD and it will be able to boot

    Steps;

    1. Click start and start Windows Virtual PC.  ( C:\users\"username"\virtual machines)
    2. click create virtual machine
    3. specify a name for your VM and location, next
    4. specify ram and networking options, next
    5. select use an existing virtual hard disk, browse to your VHD,
    6. create

    alternatively if you want to install Virtual Server 2005 R2,

    To install MS Virtual Server 2005 R2,

    1. go to run, type gpedit.msc.
    2. Under Computer Configuration, select "administrative templates" then "windows components"
    3. Next, click on "application compatibility"
    4. Double click and set "Enabled" to the setting  "turn off application compatibility engine"
    5. restart your computer (important)
    6. proceed to install Virtual Server 2005 R2
    7. when prompt for IIS, click install and enable firewall exceptions.

    this works for Win7 pro and above including windows server 2008 r2

    hope it helps.

    Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:56 AM