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SCCM 2012 Design Questions - How should i deploy RRS feed

  • Question

  • Got Four Sites - Different Geographical locations (some sites have multiple ip networks deployed and in use, same AD forest, different domains)

    Site1 = 1400 clients

    Site2 = 900 clients

    Site3 = 500

    Site4= 800

    I need these SCCM services deployed across these four sites with disaster recovery and management redundancy designed into the architecture. 

    Multiple management Points for location based administrators

    Application Web Portal

    Endpoint protection

    Software metering

    Inventory

    Remote Control / Remote Assistance

    WSUS

    WDS

    My concerns are over configuration vs loss of functionality by having a limited design.... Should i do four primary sites and a CAS or split some roles across the sites...using primary and secondary server roles... none of the sites inter-connectivity links are below a 10Mbps connection.

    Thanks .. i hope this helps... or is enough :/ 

    Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:04 PM

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  • I'd do a single primary site with 3 remote site servers acting as DP and possibly SMP if you want to use the SMP. (i never use it) Host the primary site on a replicated virtual machine.

    There's no way this few clients justifies a CAS.

    To be clear... the single primary site would be located on a single server hosting everyting including SQL.


    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/johnmarcum/


    • Edited by John Marcum Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:27 PM
    Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:22 PM
  • I concur with John.

    I do also recommend you either bring in a consultant or do a lot more research for a few reasons:

    - Management Points have *nothing* to do with administrators

    - Management Points have *nothing* to do with locations

    - Primary sites are for client scalability in terms of the number of clients supported

    - Roles can't be "split" among ConfigMgr sites


    Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com

    Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:28 PM
  • Thanks guys, 

    So John, 

    you are saying one Primary Site with Hardware redundancy (virtualisation) and Remote / Distribution Points at the other three locations to reduce wan traffic ?

    Which ultimately means my Application Web catalog can only be hosted at the primary site,  configure the DPs with WSUS and WDS hmm... 

    i will consider this more carefully.... 

    silly question though....  to initiate discovery of collections, inventory etc will all be run from the primary across the wan ? how much traffic does this generate ? Do i have to worry about spamming the link dead ?

    Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:56 PM
  • Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.

    You have great speeds and low client counts, WAN traffic for inventory won't be an issue. The only things you have going over the WAN would be inventory, packages to the DP's, WSUS scan data and client policies. Of those the only thing that could kill a good WAN link is traffic to the DP's however 2012 unlike previous versions of CM allows that traffic to be throttled. 

    WDS is now part of the DP role so you will have local WDS at each site.

    Why would you want the application catalog anywhere besides centrally located? That wouldn't really make sense. (plus I hate the stupid thing and don't use it)


    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/johnmarcum/

    Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:26 PM
  • "to initiate discovery of collections, inventory etc will all be run from the primary across the wan"

    What does this mean?

    As mentioned above, to be blunt and not insulting, you really need to learn how ConfigMgr works before you can properly design a hierarchy or infrastructure. There are so many little details in your questions that indicate -- once again not to be insulting or rude, just blunt -- that you have a fundamental lack knowledge on how ConfigMgr works and communicates. Please take the time to buy a book and/or read through the TechNet docs. Set up a lab also.


    Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com

    Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:48 PM
  • Thanks for the bluntness.. i appreciate it. Definitely would like to know what books to get into... all documents etc.. seem to be based for someone who already knows the underlying tech of SCCM. Where is the place to start.. i do have this deployed in my environment with discoveries , inventory etc.. working.. but designing for a bigger project where we dont have the resources for a consultant is the crossroads i'm sitting at .. atm...  

    :?

    Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:30 PM
  • Your environment is so small this should be an incredibly easy install. I could do it in a couple of days at most. Seems like you were just overcomplicating it with your original idea. :-)

    Have you taken a look at the unleashed book?



    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/johnmarcum/

    Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:07 PM
  • No.. i haven't looked at any serious material outside of technet documents..... I'm basically pushed into delivering this in the next month or so and I really have to learn to swim quickly... 
    Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:24 PM
  • Trial by fire and ConfigMgr are not a good combination. :-)

    Where are you located?


    John Marcum | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/johnmarcum/

    Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:04 PM
  • I can highly recommend "System Center 2012 Configuration Manager Unleashed". See http://www.amazon.com/System-Center-Configuration-Manager-Unleashed/dp/0672334372/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1368773430&sr=8-4&keywords=system+center

    Jason is one of the authors of this - so doesn't have to give a plug for his own book! ;-) It's a great reference book, and contains a lot of content with the theory and underlying processes that drives CM.

    Another good resource to look at is http://www.windows-noob.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4045-system-center-2012-configuration-manager-guides/ . Niall is another ConfigMgr MVP and his SCCM guides are really good at helping you start doing some things. Getting hands on in a lab is by far and away the best way of becoming familiar with the product. 'Career suicide' would be a phrase that comes to mind if you were to just figure-it-out-as-you-go in production.

    ConfigMgr is not a product that you can expect to learn and understand overnight, so to be honest, patience and perseverance are things which you will become good at. It is an enterprise class product that needs to be treated with respect. Done properly, the benefits and cost savings are invaluable.

    Friday, May 17, 2013 7:02 AM