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Noob question about ADMX files Windows 7 and 8.1

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  • Hello community,

    we have a company with windows 7 and windows 8.1 computers. It is mixed.
    After a while I come to the fact, that my gpo are not working with deploying printers to windows 8.1 computers. On Windows 7 it is working fine. After a research on the internet I found the fact, that I need the admx files for Windows 8.1

    Okay downloaded it, installed on the server and replaced the old ADMX files with the newer one.

    After that the deployment of the printers worked fine for Windows 8.1

    But that solution I got many other problems. For example all of my networking drives GPO weren`t working anymore.
    For me it was clear, that it was the fault of the new ADMX files.

    So I changed it back to the old ADMX files. After that my networking drives are working fine again.

    So now my question, how can I have ADMX files installed for both systems? So for windows 7 and windows 8.1?

    I thought that when i install the ADMX files for Windows 8.1 there are all older ADMX files included, but that was a wrong thinking.
    So how can I manage both operating systems with one Group Policy?

    Thanky for your help

    Monday, December 08, 2014 6:44 AM

Answers

  • > Okay downloaded it, installed on the server and replaced the old ADMX
    > files with the newer one.
    >
    > After that the deployment of the printers worked fine for Windows 8.1
    >
    > But that solution I got many other problems. For example all of my
    > networking drives GPO weren`t working anymore.
     
    Funny - neither printers nor neetwork drives make use of ADMX files. So
    these in fact do NOT have any impact on drive mappings or printer
    assignments. They even may be simply missing or whatever.
     
    Sounds more like you have either network connectivity issues or sysvol
    replication errors.
     
    > For me it was clear, that it was the fault of the new ADMX files.
     
    As above - no, it is not. I could prove, but you might do some research
    on your own, too :)
     
     

    Martin

    Mal ein GUTES Buch über GPOs lesen?

    NO THEY ARE NOT EVIL, if you know what you are doing: Good or bad GPOs?
    And if IT bothers me - coke bottle design refreshment :))
    Monday, December 08, 2014 4:33 PM
  • > What? Cant believe that.
     
    Trust me - I worked hard on that area: http://amzn.com/B00HETF014
     
    > I deploy printers per GPO, so they have to be on a template of a ADMX file.
     
    No, they rely on different configuration files within sysvol.
     
    > Because I am speaking of ADMX files and mean the whole PolicyDefinition
    > folder. So it could also rely on one of the ADML files?
     
    Again "no". The only area within a GPO that leverages ADMX/ADML is
    "Administrative Templates".
     

    Martin

    Mal ein GUTES Buch über GPOs lesen?

    NO THEY ARE NOT EVIL, if you know what you are doing: Good or bad GPOs?
    And if IT bothers me - coke bottle design refreshment :))
    Tuesday, December 09, 2014 12:42 PM

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  • > Okay downloaded it, installed on the server and replaced the old ADMX
    > files with the newer one.
    >
    > After that the deployment of the printers worked fine for Windows 8.1
    >
    > But that solution I got many other problems. For example all of my
    > networking drives GPO weren`t working anymore.
     
    Funny - neither printers nor neetwork drives make use of ADMX files. So
    these in fact do NOT have any impact on drive mappings or printer
    assignments. They even may be simply missing or whatever.
     
    Sounds more like you have either network connectivity issues or sysvol
    replication errors.
     
    > For me it was clear, that it was the fault of the new ADMX files.
     
    As above - no, it is not. I could prove, but you might do some research
    on your own, too :)
     
     

    Martin

    Mal ein GUTES Buch über GPOs lesen?

    NO THEY ARE NOT EVIL, if you know what you are doing: Good or bad GPOs?
    And if IT bothers me - coke bottle design refreshment :))
    Monday, December 08, 2014 4:33 PM
  • Hello Martin,

    thank you for your reply.

    Funny - neither printers nor neetwork drives make use of ADMX files. So
    these in fact do NOT have any impact on drive mappings or printer
    assignments. They even may be simply missing or whatever.

    What? Cant believe that.

    I deploy printers per GPO, so they have to be on a template of a ADMX file.

    In the evening I couldn`t sleep so i tested it again. I replaced all PolicyDefinitions from Win7 to Win8. 
    Networking drives didn`t work anymore ?

    Replaced all Win8ADMX files through Win7 - Networking drives worked again, but the printer deploy wasn`t working anymore.

    Now I copied the ADMX files from Win8 over the Win7 admx files, BUT I did not replace the old files. Now I have a combination of Win7ADMX and Win8ADMX-files. Now Networking drives and printer GPOs are working fine.

    Therefore I can`t really believe that the GPOs don`t use the PolicyDefinition files.

    But now I had a flash of wit and you could be right:
    Because I am speaking of ADMX files and mean the whole PolicyDefinition folder. So it could also rely on one of the ADML files?

    Thank you for your clarification

    Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:09 AM
  • > What? Cant believe that.
     
    Trust me - I worked hard on that area: http://amzn.com/B00HETF014
     
    > I deploy printers per GPO, so they have to be on a template of a ADMX file.
     
    No, they rely on different configuration files within sysvol.
     
    > Because I am speaking of ADMX files and mean the whole PolicyDefinition
    > folder. So it could also rely on one of the ADML files?
     
    Again "no". The only area within a GPO that leverages ADMX/ADML is
    "Administrative Templates".
     

    Martin

    Mal ein GUTES Buch über GPOs lesen?

    NO THEY ARE NOT EVIL, if you know what you are doing: Good or bad GPOs?
    And if IT bothers me - coke bottle design refreshment :))
    Tuesday, December 09, 2014 12:42 PM
  • Hello Martin,

    thank you for the link to the book, now I believe you all what you say :-)

    Also I will buy this book, I think it will be a very good night lecture.


    I think I have now found the situation when it is working and when it doesn`t work.

    I have now reverted all ADMX files back to the normal ADMX-Win7 files.

    I have installed the Print Management. When i first create a GPO in Group Policy (example) called "printer". I leave this group policy empty. Then in the print management i install a printer - deploy it per group policy - and choose the empty gpo there. Then the gpo is not working under windows 8.1.

    When i create a new GPO in the print management dialog, it works.

    Thank you for your clarification

    Best regards

    Paul

    Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:41 AM
  • > Also I will buy this book, I think it will be a very good night lecture.
     
    TIA for supporting my retirement :-))
     
    > I have installed the Print Management. When i first create a GPO in
    > Group Policy (example) called "printer". I leave this group policy
    > empty. Then in the print management i install a printer - deploy it per
    > group policy - and choose the empty gpo there. Then the gpo is not
    > working under windows 8.1.
     
    I never really used this thingie in a production environment. It isn't
    reliable, and things start to turn out even worse if you try to update
    printers with newer drivers or remove printers...
     
    We created a set of scripts that can create/delete local printers and
    ports as well as map/unmap shared printers for computers and users, and
    we are happy with that :)
     

    Martin

    Mal ein GUTES Buch über GPOs lesen?

    NO THEY ARE NOT EVIL, if you know what you are doing: Good or bad GPOs?
    And if IT bothers me - coke bottle design refreshment :))
    Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:25 PM