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'Welcome' screen after entering password hangs for 15 seconds RRS feed

  • Question

  • I recently re-formatted my hard-drive and re-installed windows 7. There were some problems, so I did it again. Both times I've had this issue...

    When I turn on my laptop and windows 7 boots up everything's fine up until I type in my password to log in. The 'welcome' screen stays there for nearly a good 15 seconds, when before it would only be there for about a second at most. If I log out and log back in again the welcome screen only stays there for about a second again, so this is a problem with only the first time logging in.

    I've googled this a little bit and I don't have a solid colour background at all.

    I'm going to try disabling all startup services and programs to see if one of those is the problem but while I do this I'd like to know if anyone would know how to solve this slightly annoying problem.

    Thanks to everybody in advance! All help is greatly appreciated!
    Monday, January 31, 2011 3:44 AM

Answers

  • Hi,

    your HDD is extremely used which caused the slow down.

    In the WinLogonInt phase the servies are started and I can see that the those services are slow to start:

    LanmanServer

    TabletServicePen

    FDResPub

    I can see that the Prefetcher is not working correctly. Try to speed up the boot with the help of my guide [1]. This trains the advanced prefetcher in Windows 7. This increase the boot performance a lot.

    Now look if the boot is faster.

    André

    [1] http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=140262


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    • Proposed as answer by Andre.Ziegler Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:40 PM
    • Marked as answer by Kairyun Tuesday, February 1, 2011 9:45 PM
    Monday, January 31, 2011 11:13 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    please download Process Monitor [1], run it and activate the boot logging (DON'T REBOOT!).
    Next follow my guide [2] to make a xbootmgr boot trace . After the reboot, stop the Process Monitor trace and save the data as a PML file. Now compress the boot_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl and the PML as 7z or RAR and upload he files to your Skydrive [3] and post the link here.

    I take a look at the trace, maybe I see what's wrong with your Windows.

    André

    [1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx
    [2] http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=140247
    [3] http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/4fc10639-02db-4665-993a-08d865088d65


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    • Proposed as answer by Andre.Ziegler Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:40 PM
    Monday, January 31, 2011 1:09 PM
  • Ok, I'm just about to upload it, but I have two questions.

    Since my upload speed is only 25kb/s then this is going to take a while there are 4 files

    FromKairyun.PML

    FromKairyun-1.PML

    FromKairyun-2.PML

    boot_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl

     

    Before compression they total up  to 1196mb!

    Should the files be that big?

    (EDIT NEVER MIND AFTER COMPRESSION IT CAME UP TO ONLY 80MB)

     

    Also, how am I to uninstall these boot tracing applications now?

    Thank you so very much for the reply!!

    Monday, January 31, 2011 5:17 PM
  • Okay, here are the files!

    I want you to know how much I appreciate this man, you're a life saver.

    [link removed]
    • Edited by Kairyun Monday, January 31, 2011 11:56 PM
    Monday, January 31, 2011 6:26 PM
  • Hi,

    your HDD is extremely used which caused the slow down.

    In the WinLogonInt phase the servies are started and I can see that the those services are slow to start:

    LanmanServer

    TabletServicePen

    FDResPub

    I can see that the Prefetcher is not working correctly. Try to speed up the boot with the help of my guide [1]. This trains the advanced prefetcher in Windows 7. This increase the boot performance a lot.

    Now look if the boot is faster.

    André

    [1] http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=140262


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    • Proposed as answer by Andre.Ziegler Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:40 PM
    • Marked as answer by Kairyun Tuesday, February 1, 2011 9:45 PM
    Monday, January 31, 2011 11:13 PM
  • Thank man! I'm just about to start to do it, and I wanted you to know I'm taking down the link for privacy means. If you need it back up then feel free to ask, or just save the link.

    Ok, time to make this machine boot faster...

    Monday, January 31, 2011 11:38 PM
  • I still have the files on my HDD. you can remove the link. Run the optimization and tell me the result.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Monday, January 31, 2011 11:41 PM
  • It rebooted once, I logged back in after a few minutes it rebooted itself again, I logged back in and now it isn't rebooting by itself anymore. I've been logged in for 10 minutes now. Wasn't it supposed to reboot 6 times?

     

    (EDIT nevermind it restarted a couple minutes after I posted that)

    Monday, January 31, 2011 11:57 PM
  • Wonderful!! It increased my windows boot time from around 50 seconds to 25 and now the welcome screen only shows for about 2 seconds! I was only looking for the welcome screen but this is more than welcomed!

     

    You're absolutely amazing my friend, it's been a pleasure having you help me :D

    By the way, I'm not supposed to use other Defraging utilities now? Only the windows 7 one right? Is CCleaner still ok to use? Also is this a one time thing or can I do again it in 6 months to speed my system up again?

    Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:26 AM
  • You're absolutely amazing my friend, it's been a pleasure having you help me :D

    By the way, I'm not supposed to use other Defraging utilities now? Only the windows 7 one right?

    Correct, only use the Windows included defrag tool and repeat this optimization after 2-3 months if the PC is slower again.

    best regards
    André


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:41 PM
  • Oh no! In my user folder there's a whole strew of files!! Are they safe to delete? Can I uninstall the programs that you asked me to install?

    http://s377.photobucket.com/albums/oo213/Flaming-Pencil/?action=view&current=why.png

     

    EDIT: I tested it and without the programs or those files it will boot slowly again. Can I hide the files?

    Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:06 PM
  • the files can be deleted. Those files are the traces of the 6 reboots.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 12:37 PM
  • After I deleted them it slowed back down again :(

    I re-did the process from scratch (reinstalling the programs etc) and now the welcome screen hangs for about 10 seconds. (EDIT: it varies from 3 to 10 seconds...)

    I feel like I deserve this somehow...

    Help, please!?

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 3:27 PM
  • I saw that you use MSE. Do you use the v1 or the newer v2?

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:16 PM
  • I have v2 now.

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 10:47 PM
  • remove it and use a different free tool, like Avira AntiVir or Avast! After installing the new AV tool, do the optimization again.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:53 PM
  • Ok, I'll be going to Avira right now. Before I do so,  out of curiosity which AV/firewall/On-demand scanners do you use?
    Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:00 PM
  • Ok, I re-did the optimization with Avira installed now, and the times are still about the same.

    36 seconds to boot and get to the log-in screen, 5 or 7 (usually 7) seconds of the 'welcome' screen hanging...

    Friday, February 4, 2011 1:10 AM
  • provide the latest trace file. I'm using NOD32 and my PC boots completely in 30s.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Friday, February 4, 2011 2:10 PM
  • So MS Security Essentials has more of a performance hit than NOD32?

     

    Friday, February 4, 2011 4:33 PM
  • For me, yes. MSE often uses 1 Core (of my Quad) to 100%.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Friday, February 4, 2011 9:46 PM
  • Ok, here's the link.

    http://cid-f46d59a57e954349.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?resid=F46D59A57E954349!121

     

    I'll be removing ti again after you reply.

    Thanks mate.

    Friday, February 4, 2011 10:51 PM
  • Ok, in the logon phase several ASUS tools are started. Do you need them all? The ASUS Tools imho slow down the PC a lot. If not remove them from startup with AutoRuns. Do you have Tablet PC or why are you running the Tablet Service and the Tablet tool?

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:31 PM
  • I do need all of those Asus startup tools, and I've uninstalled the ones I don't need early on. And I do digital art with my tablet, but this isn't a tablet PC.

    *sigh* Any other suggestions? I'm extremely glad you chose to help me! 7 seconds beats 15 any day, right?

    Saturday, February 5, 2011 5:04 PM
  • You can't do anything if you need all the tools.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 8:05 PM
  • I remember you said my hard drive is extremely used right? If I were to buy the same one as a replacement would that help?
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 10:25 PM
  • with used I mean, not used in the term of used space, I mean the HDD is busy reading data most time during boot. The only way to speedup Windows would be a faster HDD (SSD) or remove the ASUS tools.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Sunday, February 6, 2011 3:01 PM
  • Hmm alright then, I'll look into which other ASUS tools I can remove from the startup process. Hopefully it'll resolve things. If not, as I said before 7 seconds tops 15 any day.
    Sunday, February 6, 2011 5:21 PM