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Loss of Data after unexpected power down RRS feed

  • Question

  • We are attempting to use steadystate for our pool Vista machines, we are using the WDP facility only. The machines are built with the firms standard applications and as Administrator Steadystate is confgured to initially delete all data that is put on the machine during that logged in session when the machine is rebooted. In this way before we hand the machine to a user we log on locally as an administrator and reset the time out period to 6 months into the future.

    The user then logs onto the machine as a Domain user, creates their profile and installs the additional  applications that they might need. As the machine is a Laptop it may not be connected to our Lan for a period of time but the user credentilas are cached and they can log on and log off as required.

    When the machine is returned to the pool a local administrator logs on to it and resets the time out to clear down at next reboot, this will now remove anything the user has saved to the machine. The process seems to work however there is an issue that has caused a problem and we would like to ask if ther is a way of controlling the actions described below.

    The first question I have is the Shutdown option on the control alt delete screen that displays on a non-Steadystate machine is missing, is this expected? 

    The second but more pressing issue is as follows:

    The user of the machine has been working for a few days loggin in and out of the machine whilst disconnected from the Lan. For some reason they just power it down without shutting down correctly or it crashes and connot be shut down correctly.

    When the machine is turned back on disconnected from the Lan they cannot log in, their profile has been wiped. It seems that during the power down the default setting has been reset to clear down the data at reboot rather than 6 months into the future, which of course had also removed the Domain user profile as this was created after the time out setting was configured.

    Is this expected behaviour or is ther a way of retaining the extended time period during unexpected power downs?

    Any response would be most Welcome.

    Thank you

    John Haslehurst
    Deployment specialist
    Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:09 PM

Answers

  • Hi John, I'd like to inform you that there is an option in Windows SteadyState - Set Computer restrictions to remove "shutdown button": 

    Remove shut down and turn off options from the "log on to Windows" dialog box and the Welcome screen

    You can disable it and see the result.

    For the second one, this is by design. When the system is not shut down normally, WDP reverts to "remove all changes at restart" because the disk is not guaranteed to be in a consistent state under those circumstances. Thank you for your understanding.


     
    Sean Zhu - MSFT
    Thursday, March 4, 2010 7:42 AM
  • Sean

    Thank you for you response I will now have to convince the management that it is a safety feature! and they need to get their users to back there data up to a usb key or a Nework Share.

    Regards

    John Haslehurst
    Deployment specialist
    Thursday, March 4, 2010 9:58 AM

All replies

  • Hi John, I'd like to inform you that there is an option in Windows SteadyState - Set Computer restrictions to remove "shutdown button": 

    Remove shut down and turn off options from the "log on to Windows" dialog box and the Welcome screen

    You can disable it and see the result.

    For the second one, this is by design. When the system is not shut down normally, WDP reverts to "remove all changes at restart" because the disk is not guaranteed to be in a consistent state under those circumstances. Thank you for your understanding.


     
    Sean Zhu - MSFT
    Thursday, March 4, 2010 7:42 AM
  • Sean

    Thank you for you response I will now have to convince the management that it is a safety feature! and they need to get their users to back there data up to a usb key or a Nework Share.

    Regards

    John Haslehurst
    Deployment specialist
    Thursday, March 4, 2010 9:58 AM