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  • I logged in this morning to find Windows 10 had ran updates last night, I found my link to Active Directory Users and Computers (dsa.msc) was broken and the file removed.  I went into Control Panel to add it back in through "Turn Windows features on or off" but found RSAT was completely removed. I contacted Microsoft Tier 1 Chat support (Roland G) and was told

    "Roland G: Okay and I would like to inform you that remote desktop services is no longer available in Windows 10.

    Roland G: It will not work in windows 10

    Me: remote server manager services?

    Roland G: Yes"

    In disbelief I continued searching online, going back to the RSAT download page (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=45520) I found it lists windows 10 as being supported (**Remote Server Administration Tools for Windows 10 can be installed ONLY on computers that are running the full release of Windows 10 Professional, Windows 10 Enterprise, or Windows 10 Education.** ) so I downloaded and installed it again.  Now everything is back to normal.   I hope this saves someone some time!

    • Changed type Michael_LS Friday, April 15, 2016 3:03 AM
    Thursday, April 14, 2016 3:43 PM

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  • I am not sure why it has been removed, may you could look into event viewer to check what caused this issue.
    Thursday, April 14, 2016 3:52 PM
  • Hi Gaz2600,

    Thank you for your sharing and update.

    If only installed the Windows Update, then we could take a look at the Windowsupdate.log and the CBS.log to take a further look.

    By the way, if you don't mind, as this is the information you shared, I would like to change it into discussion.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    Regards


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    Friday, April 15, 2016 3:03 AM
  • A co-worker of mine contacted Tier 1 support for a problem with a Surface 3.   The girl asked him, "Who makes that?"

    And this issue of the RSAT being removed is a known issue that MS doesn't seem to be doing anything about.   I've seen forum posts dating back to last year about this problem.

    WD

    Monday, April 18, 2016 6:05 PM
  • Well witchdoctor12,

    There used to be issues with RSAT on Windows 10, and the reason could be various.

    Mostly should be the version mismatch.

    For the issue mentioned here, I think this should be caused file mismatch, as Gaz2600 shared, a re-install should fix such kind of issues.

    If any further comments, please feel free to post back.

    Regards


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    Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:31 AM
  • Win 10 Anniversary Update wiped my rsat on my Surface Book.  I use them every day so I know exactly when it happened.  Both my surface book and workstation lost rsat with this update. Please stop blaming the end user. I installed a fresh machine and put on rsat, installed win 10 ann. update and poof it was gone on this machine too.  Please just fix it already. 
    Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:05 PM
  • Yet another Win10 update last night that killed RSAT....again. dnsmgmt.msc, gpmc.msc, dsa.msc have been removed from %SystemRoot%\system32\.

    I downloaded the installer again, reinstalled & it and now everything is working again...

    CBS file, not sure what to look for here is some of it relating to RSAT:

    2016-08-17 15:17:32, Info                  CBS    Universal Time is: 2016-08-17 22:17:32.250
    2016-08-17 15:17:32, Info                  CBS    Loaded Servicing Stack v10.0.10586.486 with Core: C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-servicingstack_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.10586.486_none_7640e086266ea227\cbscore.dll
    2016-08-17 15:17:32, Info                  CSI    00000001@2016/8/17:22:17:32.255 WcpInitialize (wcp.dll version 0.0.0.6) called (stack @0x7ffc868246d9 @0x7ffc86bd2150 @0x7ffc86bd1d2b @0x7ff6b9932ee0 @0x7ff6b99338e1 @0x7ffcc38fd533)
    2016-08-17 15:17:32, Info                  CBS    NonStart: Set pending store consistency check.
    2016-08-17 15:17:32, Info                  CBS    Session: 30537941_640408188 initialized by client DISM Package Manager Provider, external staging directory: (null)
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detect Parent, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.10585.0, Parent: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Disposition = Detect, VersionComp: EQ, BuildComp: EQ, RevisionComp: EQ, Exist: present
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detectParent (exact match): Parent: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, parent state: Installed
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: Evaluating package applicability for package Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.10585.0, applicable state: Installed
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000002 IAdvancedInstallerAwareStore_ResolvePendingTransactions (call 1) (flags = 00000004, progress = NULL, phase = 0, pdwDisposition = @0x7d0c37d240
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000003 Creating NT transaction (seq 1), objectname [6]"(null)"
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000004 Created NT transaction (seq 1) result 0x00000000, handle @0x298
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000005 Poqexec successfully registered in [l:12 ml:13]"SetupExecute"
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000006@2016/8/17:22:17:33.763 Beginning NT transaction commit...
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000007@2016/8/17:22:17:33.763 CSI perf trace:
    CSIPERF:TXCOMMIT;331
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000008 CSI Store 2454156088976 (0x0000023b671a1690) initialized
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    00000009@2016/8/17:22:17:33.768 CSI Transaction @0x23b6719f940 initialized for deployment engine {d16d444c-56d8-11d5-882d-0080c847b195} with flags 00000000 and client id [25]"TI5.30537941_640408188:1/"
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CSI    0000000a@2016/8/17:22:17:33.773 CSI Transaction @0x23b6719f940 destroyed
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: DetectUpdate, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Remote Parent: ActiveDirectory-PowerShell, Parent Missing (ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND), non-critical error, ignored, check case sensitivity
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: DetectUpdate, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Remote Parent: RemoteServerAdministrationTools-AD-Powershell, Parent Missing (ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND), non-critical error, ignored, check case sensitivity
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Update: AD-TRLParser, Applicable: NeedsParent, Dis
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: DetectUpdate, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.10585.0, Remote Parent: AD-TRLParser, Intended State: Absent
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.10585.0, Update: AD-TRLParser, Applicable: NeedsParent, Dis
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    External EvaluateApplicability, package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.10585.0, package applicable State: Installed, highest update applicable state: Absent, resulting applicable state:Absent
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detect Parent, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Parent: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-PowerShell-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.0.0, Disposition = Detect, VersionComp: EQ, BuildComp: GE, RevisionComp: EQ, Exist: present
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detectParent: no parent found, go absent
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detect Parent, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Parent: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-PowerShell-SrvFnd-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.0.0, Disposition = Detect, VersionComp: EQ, BuildComp: GE, RevisionComp: EQ, Exist: present
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detectParent: no parent found, go absent
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detect Parent, Package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Parent: Microsoft-Windows-RSATClient-Admin-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, Disposition = Detect, VersionComp: EQ, BuildComp: EQ, RevisionComp: EQ, Exist: present
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: detectParent (exact match): Parent: Microsoft-Windows-RSATClient-Admin-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, parent state: Installed
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    Appl: Evaluating package applicability for package Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, applicable state: Installed
    2016-08-17 15:17:33, Info                  CBS    External EvaluateApplicability, package: Microsoft-ActiveDirectory-TRLParser-Package-ds~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10585.0, package applicable State: Installed, highest update applicable state: Absent, resulting applicable state:Absent
     
    Thursday, August 18, 2016 3:57 PM
  • Windows creator update just wiped mine, so still a problem.
    Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:54 PM
  • can confirm... mine was cleaned away for both updates
    Monday, August 21, 2017 1:58 PM
  • I am really annoyed by this.  I went to unlock a user's account, and I had no Active Directory.  I had to log onto a server.  I will try and reinstall it.

    Tuesday, August 22, 2017 6:34 AM
  • I'm also experiencing this issue as well. My RSAT gets removed each time an update is applied, and I have to run the RSAT Installer again to get access to these tools that I use everyday. I would sincerely appreciate it if something could be done so that these utilities are not removed when system updates are applied.
    Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:30 PM
  • I too logged in this morning to find that when Windows 10 Pro applied the Version 1703 Build 15063.674 my installation of RAST was removed.

    I'd been holding out on applying Windows 10 updates as they seem hellbent on turning Windows 10 into Windows 8. Please stop trying to shove a tablet OS down our throat. I don't know a single person that has the ability to type 60 WPM that can do it faster on a tablet. Tablets and a tablet OSs just slow down professionals. Why does MSFT and Apple insist that we all dumb down to the tablet form factor?

    Please fix this issue. Windows 10 Professional should still be considered a commercial grade OS. It doesn't need touch everything, no server tools, and Candy Crush. 

    Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:08 PM
  • I also am needing to re-install RSAT after the update to 1709. When will they get this right?
    Monday, October 30, 2017 3:31 PM
  • They won't ever get this right. It's been happening since Win 10 started. 
    Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:35 PM
  • IIS Manager for Remote Administration also needs a repair after every Win10 upgrade.
    Thursday, November 9, 2017 3:26 PM
  • This just happened on an update for me today as well. Is this really that hard Microsoft?
    Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:10 PM
  • Window 10 RSAT disappearing act continues into the new year...
    Friday, January 5, 2018 3:54 PM
  • WOW Microsoft...what the heck, this has existed for a year and still updates remove RSAT. What's wrong with your QA team?
    Wednesday, January 10, 2018 3:34 PM
  • Yep, same thing just happened to me. Finished a big windows 10 update yesterday that I'm pretty sure required no less than 5 reboots and what do I find today, RSAT is gone. Again. I'm wondering if it is because I'm on an insider track.
    Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:34 PM
  • It's normal that when you upgrade to a newer version of Windows, the RSAT Tool gets uninstalled.

    You can install the new RSAT tool from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=45520.

    Br,

    Kristof

    Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:00 AM
  • Just my opinion...

    RSAT in Windows 10 are like any KB/Hotfix/CU.
    When you upgrade Windows 10 to a new version (like upgrading from 1703 to 1709), all fixes for the previous Windows are not reinstalled.
    The only difference here is that RSAT can be installed on different Windows 10 releases.
    To correctly handle this, RSAT should be available in Windows 10 as a built-in feature and not a separate KB.

    Gérald

     

    Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:25 AM
  • A coworker of mine said you can delete the KB that uninstalled AD from your PC and reinstall the AD.  However, I can't find any information on which KB is actually guilty of removing AD.  I reinstall AD 2017 for Window 10 however the previous version of AD is more user friendly.
    Thursday, January 25, 2018 8:39 PM
  • Everyone,

    I can understand compatibility issues being the cause and need to remove the RSAT, that's not the problem to me. The problem to me is that they removed them without asking or informing that they were gone. Instead, techs are screwed when they need to do something and the tools are not there. Microsoft pushes updates that break things and don't care. It's stupid and unethical, not to mention they are obviously not testing everything. And besides, someone developing the updates or fixes knows that the RSAT will be removed/uninstalled so it's their fault for being utterly useless in transparency. The resolution to this is not technical, it's simply informative. I would not have had a problem if say after the update procedure I got met with a notification of changes made to my system.. like a splash page stating what software was removed and a link to install an updated version. There are several other issues that the latest updates break and Microsoft does not care, and as consumers of their products we shouldn't stand for such horrible standards. You can't not care in a commercial world and expect there not to be consequences, there's reasons why people heavily advocate against Microsoft. I have been a user of all Microsoft software for most of my life, I know the work that has went into it, and love certain software (like Microsoft Office which is worlds superior to Open Source equivalents if you need advanced features) but F*** YOU MICROSOFT!



    Monday, February 5, 2018 4:16 PM
  • Guys,

    Is the same thing for me after the windows 10 anniversary update I Lost my AD Snap in, I've tried to reinstall it but still I can't see it on Turn widows future on or off....

    Any suggestion ?

    Thanks for your help

    Monday, February 5, 2018 4:37 PM
  • I just installed the latest version of the RSAT for 64 bit 1709 Creators/Anniversary Update:

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=45520

    But I'd probably try to make sure you have all the latest updates before installing it, because for one it may need them and two, if you install the software a later update might just remove it again.

    Best,

    Micheal

    Monday, February 5, 2018 4:41 PM
  • Guys,

    After install the RSAT in Windows 10 I could not see it on Turn widows future on or off, but is in Administrative Tools

    > One thing I have done is the select the Active directory lightweight Directory services see on Turn widows future on or off

    Monday, February 5, 2018 4:45 PM
  • It looks like Microsoft isn't listening again, what can we do? Reprimand them in forums? have them brush us off time and time again?

    I know, Class Action Lawsuit? Where do I sign?

    I mean, if Microsoft doesn't want to listen to it's users, we have the right to sue for services not rendered and loss of work. How many hours has debugging Windows issues caused us? And how much does a Windows License cost? If you take just a small percent of the 1 billion Microsoft Users, say one million and each counted as a $100 claim (and that's just the OS cost, not maintenance which is poor, the cost of a tech's time, frustration, anguish. Just $100 for a small group would be a $100,000,000 payout. And all I want is Microsoft to do its job ethically and not with such shady practices, such as forcing updates that break things without informing their users. There software is fundamentally flawed and the problem isn't inherently a technical one. I for one am tired of it.

    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/246587-microsoft-faces-class-action-lawsuit-windows-10-upgrade-policy
    Monday, February 5, 2018 4:54 PM
  • It looks like Microsoft isn't listening again, what can we do? Reprimand them in forums? have them brush us off time and time again?

    I know, Class Action Lawsuit? Where do I sign?

    I mean, if Microsoft doesn't want to listen to it's users, we have the right to sue for services not rendered and loss of work. How many hours has debugging Windows issues caused us? And how much does a Windows License cost? If you take just a small percent of the 1 billion Microsoft Users, say one million and each counted as a $100 claim (and that's just the OS cost, not maintenance which is poor, the cost of a tech's time, frustration, anguish. Just $100 for a small group would be a $100,000,000 payout. And all I want is Microsoft to do its job ethically and not with such shady practices, such as forcing updates that break things without informing their users. There software is fundamentally flawed and the problem isn't inherently a technical one. I for one am tired of it.

    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/246587-microsoft-faces-class-action-lawsuit-windows-10-upgrade-policy

    Microsoft ending consumers' ability to file class-action suits
    Monday, February 5, 2018 5:07 PM
  • You're right, it appears that Microsoft can legally "prohibit class-action lawsuits", so users would have to sue on a one-on-one basis. That's just shameful by both Microsoft and the Courts. But it's not the first time and it won't be the last time. I guess you'd have to make a case that they breached contract. Also, it doesn't appear that this verbiage is part of the Microsoft Windows Terms of Service yet. But I'd have to look further into it. Regardless, what they are doing is still wrong, or at least the way they do it.

    I created a discussion, anyone interested please contribute to it.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-desktop/a-case-for-microsoft-to-start-listening-to-its/f401cb2d-f325-45ea-8adb-788d23f1bd7b

    Update: The article you quote goes on to state.. Arbitration Fairness Act amendment, a bill was introduced last year by Sens. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), and by Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) in the House, "would block companies — all companies — from blocking class-action lawsuits". I'm not sure if this bill went through, because those things are long reads, but it appears there have been class actions filed against Microsoft all the way up to 2017, so I'm thinking so. Also, I could find nothing in their current terms of service to support the initial claim. So in summary, go right ahead and sue Microsoft.. either individually or together. But make a compelling argument because there is so much.
    Monday, February 5, 2018 5:38 PM
  • Under no means should this be "normal"
    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:04 PM
  • In same boat ... now reinstalling for 2nd time.

    The "It's normal" comments are fairly subjective here.  Like, its normal to be hit in the face by your spouse.

    Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:37 PM
  • I have the same problem. Right now after spring 2018 update was done, that is 3rd time I have to install this damn thing!
    • Edited by kubik256 Friday, May 18, 2018 6:43 AM
    Friday, May 18, 2018 6:42 AM
  • I have the same problem. Right now after spring 2018 update was done, that is 3rd time I have to install this damn thing!
    1+ It's probably my 4th-5th time.. Once i was able to reinstall RSAT but DNS was for some annoying reason missing, took me days to get it back. I hate MS 10. Happened again today :') Good work MS. 
    Friday, May 18, 2018 8:27 AM
  • Just for info, RS5 will fix this problem
    RSAT will become an On Demand feature.

    https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/05/31/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17682/#IXEsU5cMMy7qcpf1.97

    RSAT is now available on demand!

    What does that mean? You no longer have to manually download RSAT every time you upgrade! Just go to “Manage optional features” in Settings (the fastest way there is to search for that) and click “Add a feature” – you’ll now see all of the RSAT components listed. Pick the ones you want, and the next time you upgrade Windows will automatically ensure all those components persist the upgrade (just like any of our other on-demand features, like speech resources or OpenSSH).

    Gérald

    Friday, June 1, 2018 12:12 PM
  • Good thing!! But then, why dont you just reinstall them during the update? I mean if RSAT is installed on a computer, its usually not something that has been installed for testing and forgotten... It is needed!!!

    Wake up guys!! Stop cutting corners and just do things properly.

    Speaking of updates and features, I was reading the new features in Edge after todays win10 update... You are making a big deal about being now able to modify URL in favorites... Really!!!

    Monday, June 11, 2018 8:39 PM
  • And here we are over 2 years later and every "feature" update (1803 this time) STILL removes your RSAT leaving you in a lurch having to go find and reinstall the new version along with resetting other Windows components.  Microsoft has created a non-enterprise system that is barely better than Apple at this point.  Oh for the golden days of Windows 7 when things actually worked.... 
    Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:04 PM
  • Hi All

    I just installed Windows 10 ver:1809 on my work PC and it removed my Active Directory again.

    Regards

    JustITGuy

    Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:45 AM
  • Hi Barberouss

    you may need to install Remote Server Administration Tools again on your PC.  Once you install it then you can see it in the Windows Features menu.

    Regards

    JustITGuy

    Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:48 AM
  • I have had the same issue, twice. just happened last night. re-add it and it works once again.

    and interestingly this time is required me to uninstall MCafees before I could do the updates. I did so and after updates I downloaded the latest version of MCafees and it's now telling me "MCafees enterprise edition can't be run on Windows".

    • Edited by DaveJoe Tuesday, January 15, 2019 3:57 PM WTH
    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 3:50 PM
  • It's a small pain, but just re-install all the RSAT tools under Settings/Apps/Apps & Features/Manage Optional features.

    Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:39 PM
  • I just had my RSAT unstalled the other day...July of 2019.  I guess Microsoft is still working on the fix.  I think its because they are pushing AzureAD but thats just a guess.  There is still some on premise environments.  THanks to this thread I get a reality check!
    Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:52 PM
  • Mine has uninstalled a total of 3 times. everytime after a major windows update. Very annoying when you have daily Power shell scripts that depend on it being installed to work.
    Thursday, October 3, 2019 6:45 PM