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  • First, my system specifications:

    CPU: i7-920
    Memory: 6GB Ram
    Storage: 320GB drive, 750GB Drive, 2TB drive, 120GB SSD drive, 250GB SSD Drive
    Video: Nvidia 670 GTX

    I've been running windows 7 since 2008 or 2009 when i built this PC.  I've installed windows 7 at that point, and up to now, couldn't be bothered to reinstall windows at all.  At this point, C:\ is running out of space with loads of programs I've installed and stopped using.

    Long story short,  when windows 10 officially comes out, i want to upgrade to windows 10, without upgrading windows 7.  I do not want to bring all that mess over into windows 10.  I would rather just install windows 10 on a new drive, and format the 320GB drive. Last week, my wife surprised me with a 250GB SSD drive for my birthday, which i installed windows 10 preview onto.

    I did find an issue that is still driving me up the wall.  Normally, by default in windows 7, Drive C is an aging 320GB seagate drive, D is a 750GB seagate, E is a 2TB WD, F is a 128GB SSD drive, and G is where my new SSD drive is located.  The issue i came up with, is a permission error to access my data on all of those drives.  After installing windows 10 onto G:, i copied some files over (kee-pass2 data file, steam installer, nvidia graphics driver, a text file with my mIRC registration code) so that i could get a new system up and running.

    The problem I got was when i booted into windows 10, and tried to start or open any of these files, i was denied permission to open any of these files, including the text file with the mIRC registration code.  I've right clicked on these files, went into security and added myself as the owner of these files, and am still being denied access to these files.  If I downloaded the drivers and the steam installer, they started fine.  The kee-pass2 software couldn't load the database at all, even when i went to the windows 7 location and loaded the original file.

    Steam could not access any of my steam installs on E:\, claiming a permission error.  When i tried to go into my steam directory on e:\ windows reported that i still do not have permission to access the file, and seemed to give me the option to take ownership.  

    To date, it's still claiming I don't have permission to access any of these files.  I've even tried making a local login with the exact same account name as on windows 7, with administrator's access, and am still being denied permission to access these files.

    At this point, I'm feeling an impending sense of doom, and am currently believing that my idea of installing windows 10 without upgrading from windows 7 directly is not going to work.   The only way I can currently think of to resolve this issue is to reformat all of my drives once I get windows 10 installed, and reinstall whatever games i want back from steam once I'm set up in windows 10.

    Is there something I'm missing here?  Is there any thing I can do without taking such a drastic action?  Can I even upgrade to windows 10 for free in the way I want to upgrade?

    Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:56 PM

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  • CM

    You simply need to take ownership of those directories.  http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2814-take-ownership-add-context-menu-windows-8-a.html  (works in win 10)


    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:24 PM
    Moderator

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  • There is nothing definite about the Windows 10 upgrade published by Microsoft.  You will have to wait just as everyone else does until Microsoft publishes the official word on everything related to upgrading to Windows 10.

    Saturday, April 18, 2015 6:47 PM
  • I hate to say it but you seem to be making this harder on yourself. Reduce the problem to it's simplest form, you want to move data from one volume to another volume and it's giving a permissions error.

    The first thing to eliminate is any form of disk protection such as Bitlocker or some sort of TPM implementation. Assuming you definitely don't use anything like that...

    The next thing to do is dismount (or physically disconnect in this case) all volumes except the relevant pair, boot from the Win 10 volume and then try to access the information on the "data" volume. If this does not work then reporting back the exact error would be beneficial. A screenshot of the Disk Management interface would also be very useful. Right-click the start menu for a shortcut to the snap-in.

    Finally almost all applications (including Steam games) are best reinstalled fully upon completion of the OS install. The installation process for almost every game includes third party libraries, registry entries and so on that will be missing from the new OS. Indeed Steam itself can give problems when "importing" a library through physical copy and repair. It's possible, but not advisable.

    Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:07 PM
  • I hate to say it but you seem to be making this harder on yourself. Reduce the problem to it's simplest form, you want to move data from one volume to another volume and it's giving a permissions error.

    The first thing to eliminate is any form of disk protection such as Bitlocker or some sort of TPM implementation. Assuming you definitely don't use anything like that...

    The next thing to do is dismount (or physically disconnect in this case) all volumes except the relevant pair, boot from the Win 10 volume and then try to access the information on the "data" volume. If this does not work then reporting back the exact error would be beneficial. A screenshot of the Disk Management interface would also be very useful. Right-click the start menu for a shortcut to the snap-in.

    Finally almost all applications (including Steam games) are best reinstalled fully upon completion of the OS install. The installation process for almost every game includes third party libraries, registry entries and so on that will be missing from the new OS. Indeed Steam itself can give problems when "importing" a library through physical copy and repair. It's possible, but not advisable.

    Moving data isn't the issue.  Reading existing data in it's current location is the issue.  This is occurring even after I renamed the system to be the same as the windows 7 system, and using the same user name and password.

    I suppose it's some feature of the NTFS system to keep people from maliciously accessing a "secured" filesystem that they don't really have access to.  The problem with this case is, it's my data and i'm sort of being prevented from doing so.  

    To date, I have been able to get Windows 10 to read some directories after clicking a button to give me that access, and go eat dinner or watch a tv episode.  The issue is that it won't let me into my windows 7 user directory, even after spending an hour going through my directory.  The only thing I can do is open an admin command prompt and manually xcopy what i want to access.  The other issue is that it appears to randomly forget that it managed to 'convert' some of the directories, and needs to do it again.. and again.. and again.

    Sunday, April 19, 2015 8:56 PM
  • CM

    You simply need to take ownership of those directories.  http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2814-take-ownership-add-context-menu-windows-8-a.html  (works in win 10)


    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:24 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi CM,

    Copying files from Windows 7 drive to Windows 10 Drive is not so easy to make it work.

    Windows 10 make it more harder regarding permissions on the previous OS, or in dual boot situation, which is when you want to access the system file on another OS drive, it will give you an Access Denied error.

    For the files, that mostly used by the installed programs, one thing that mind is the file path  (if the file location has been changed), another thing is the access permission. Which I think is better to reinstall on Windows 10.

    And when it comes to the upgrade, as suggested by the others, we need to wait until Microsoft announce the proper ways.

    Best regards


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    Monday, April 20, 2015 9:28 AM
    Moderator