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Do we need to add language tag into tags and title of the post? RRS feed

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  • I've been adding language into title and tags section for non English articles. However, I found that this was removed in the next revision. So, do we want adding tags or not?

    Also, is WiKi LeaderBoard not updated recently? I know I've been doing some editing and wrote a few new articles, but I do not see myself in the activity board.


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    Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:04 PM
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  • First, the Wiki activities were not showing up in our profiles for a few days. This also affected the leaderboard (as far as I could tell). However, maybe a day ago the activity seemed to catch up.

    The activities in the last week leaderboard was bogus for most of the last week and most of today, but I believe it might be updated just now. My totals were going down every day, but they just jumped (as did yours). Does your total look reasonable now?

    For English language articles the new guidance is to include the tag en-US, but not include (en-US) in the title. In fact, as I find this I remove it from the title. I believe all Wiki articles should have a language tag, so we can filter on the language. But when I added (pt-BR) to some article titles, it was removed with the comment that we shouldn't do this. Maybe you had a similar experience. I asked why, but got no answer. My guess is that the languages where the Wiki is separate don't need the language in the title. I forget which languages, but Portuguese is one, maybe Russian.

    Did you find language tags removed? I can't remember now if I saw that, but if I did it makes little sense.


    Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:10 AM
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  • Yes, I found that I added pt-BR to one article's title and it was removed later with some comment about removal (since it was in Portuguese, I am not exactly sure). I don't remember if the tag stayed in the tags section or not.

    So, we need some clear guidance here - do we need to add ru-Ru or pt-BR in the title (and in the tags) or only in the tags or not at all?


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    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:08 PM
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  • The only guidance I have seen is in this article, under "Titles", "Non-English Languages":

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/1775.wiki-user-experience-guidelines.aspx

    and then the artilcle refers to this for title guidance:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/364.wiki-non-english-language-title-guidelines.aspx

    The example given in the last link is "Wiki Article Title (pt-BR)". But notice my question and Ed's response in the comments of the first article I linked. Ed states: "You probably know this now but others might have this question too... We want the new Portuguese articles to be written on the Portuguese version of TechNet Wiki, and, thus, don't need the tag/title code. There's also a Russian and Chinese version. Thanks!"

    Now I just noticed this under "Tags" in the first article:

    • Note that you don't need to add language codes to tags when the article is in a Wiki dedicated to that language. For example, you don't need to add the "ru-RU" tag to articles in the Russian instance of TechNet Wiki.
    • However, we are adding the "en-US" tag to all English articles. This allows us to quickly filter out all non-English articles in tag results.

    I guess the thought is that the English language Wiki has many other languages (so we need the en-US tag), but the Russian Wiki should only have Russian language articles (and the same for Portuguese and Chinese). I think the articles need to be updated to reflect this throughout.


    Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:28 PM
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  • I just updated the two articles to make the guidance clear. As I understand it, we don't add (pt-BR) to the title of articles in the Portuguese version of the Wiki, and we don't add the pt-BR tag to those articles. Same for Russian and Chinese. Next, is it always clear what Wiki we are in, if I search for an article and find one in Portuguese (for example)?


    Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:53 PM
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  • Now I see how it works. The main page for English language articles has no language indication in the url:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki

    But the Portuguese and Russian main pages do:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/ru-ru/default.aspx
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/pt-br/default.aspx

    And a Russian article also has the language indicated in the url, such as:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/ru-ru/contents/articles/17908.ru-ru.aspx

    It looks like the Portuguese have decided among themselves to remove (pt-BR) in the title and the tag from their articles.


    Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:50 PM
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  • Thanks, so I started to remove now the language tag from Russian and Portuguese articles that I've been previously adding in :)

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    Friday, June 21, 2013 2:15 PM
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