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MOSS farm and Capacity check RRS feed

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  • Hi,

    We have an existing MOSS Intranet farm with 2 WFE, 1 App Server and 1 DB Server hosted in VMWare instances. We have performance issue and page reponse time is bit slow. We wanted to check if the existing MOSS farm is capable enough for current user base(around 4000 total users) and 100 concurrent users. How do I check this?

    Thanks in advance,

    Sanban

     

    Monday, April 5, 2010 5:42 PM

Answers

  • It's still applicable to see where you can be taxed...  here;'s a tool that will do some of the work for you http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=DBEE0227-D4F7-48F8-85F0-E71493B2FD87&displaylang=en

    Based on what you're saying 100 concurrent and the specs listed here i would think it would get slower as MOSS get's bigger... 

    http://geekswithblogs.net/MainaD/archive/2007/10/17/116101.aspx <- What your boxes should look like.... (this is the spread-sheet type item you were looking for). If you look you don't even meet the min recommended specs for hardware or software.

    Also if you have network load balancers in place you can look there as well but I'd recommend increasing the processors on the VM boxes and monitor usage.  I noticed you have 6GM of mem on the SQL box… Is that 64bit?  Since you only have 3.5 on the WFE and App are those 32bit?

    Hope this helps.... Kris Wagner


    Kris Wagner, MCITP, MCTS Twitter @sharepointkris Blog: http://www.sharepointkris.com/blog
    • Proposed as answer by Nik Patel Friday, April 9, 2010 4:25 AM
    • Marked as answer by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, November 26, 2010 9:34 PM
    Monday, April 5, 2010 6:28 PM
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  • Can you give us more detail on the server specs?  Ram, Proc, OS (32 or 64 bit), What version of SharePoint (Ent or Stand).  There are so many factors... Also are you on VMWare ESX (what are the specs on that box).

    Here is a capacity and planning site on TechNet.com

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc262971.aspx 


    Kris Wagner, MCITP, MCTS Twitter @sharepointkris Blog: http://www.sharepointkris.com/blog
    Monday, April 5, 2010 5:47 PM
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  • Hi kris, thanks for your response

    The article you have refered here talks about planning a sharepoint server farm but I think thats not applicable for an existing farm? What I'm looking for a tool(even an excelsheet should be fine) or guidelines that can tell me whether my existing farm is good enough for current user base.

    Here are the specification:

    1. 2WFEs - 1.86GHz - 3.5 MB RAM
    2. Application Server - 3.2GHz - 4 MB RAM
    3. SQL Server - 1.86 GHz - 6 MB RAM

    Thanks,

    Sanban

     

    Monday, April 5, 2010 6:13 PM
  • It's still applicable to see where you can be taxed...  here;'s a tool that will do some of the work for you http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=DBEE0227-D4F7-48F8-85F0-E71493B2FD87&displaylang=en

    Based on what you're saying 100 concurrent and the specs listed here i would think it would get slower as MOSS get's bigger... 

    http://geekswithblogs.net/MainaD/archive/2007/10/17/116101.aspx <- What your boxes should look like.... (this is the spread-sheet type item you were looking for). If you look you don't even meet the min recommended specs for hardware or software.

    Also if you have network load balancers in place you can look there as well but I'd recommend increasing the processors on the VM boxes and monitor usage.  I noticed you have 6GM of mem on the SQL box… Is that 64bit?  Since you only have 3.5 on the WFE and App are those 32bit?

    Hope this helps.... Kris Wagner


    Kris Wagner, MCITP, MCTS Twitter @sharepointkris Blog: http://www.sharepointkris.com/blog
    • Proposed as answer by Nik Patel Friday, April 9, 2010 4:25 AM
    • Marked as answer by Mike Walsh FIN Friday, November 26, 2010 9:34 PM
    Monday, April 5, 2010 6:28 PM
    Moderator
  • For this above SharePoint farm, I want to find out what would be peak throughput?
    Monday, April 5, 2010 6:32 PM
  • Peak throughput will vary and can't be calculated off of a white paper or link, it's going to be unique for every install.

    You'll need to go much deeper and look at your farms usage... IE One user uploads a document, another team use excel features or what type of customized work has been done.  For 4,000 users I'd assume you might have a network monitoring solution in place over SharePoint that would help you find your peaks.

    You can learn more by using the links provided above.....  I think i answered your original question... Thanks Kris


    Kris Wagner, MCITP, MCTS Twitter @sharepointkris Blog: http://www.sharepointkris.com/blog
    Monday, April 5, 2010 6:39 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Kris,

    I have 64-bit softwares in all the servers(WFE, App and SQL Server)

    The SharePoint capacity planner tool is no more available, it seems Microsoft has discontinued this tool, refer this http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/sharepointadmin/thread/ba4f133d-c152-4ebc-a65c-d9a47b36eb92

    These planning tool are not helpful at all when we are evaluating an existing SharePoint farm. How can I verify my existing sharepoint farm using this tool?

    Regarding geekswithblogs hardware specification, is just a blog entry from an user(Not from Microsoft), without much data to justify hardware specification. Here is an article from Microsoft that talks about the hardware specification (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc262485.aspx), and I think our hardware just matches with that, excpet the processor speed.

    But not sure if we have a virtual environment, should we have addtional RAM and CPU speed compare to physical server?

     

     

     

     

    • Edited by Sanban Tuesday, April 6, 2010 1:42 PM edit content
    Tuesday, April 6, 2010 1:38 PM