Enabling Windows Backup and Restore Results in 5 minute boot time RRS feed

  • Question

  • I recently added a 4TB WD Black WD4003FZEX hdd to a desktop computer.  I ran a full (non-quick) format and set up backup and restore to automatically backup the Users folder to that drive.  The computer boots in UEFI mode and the drive was partitioned using a GUID Partition Table and one NTFS partition of size 3725.9GB.

    After doing this, the boot-up time went from about 12 seconds to around 5 minutes.  I rebooted several times and confirmed that this was the case.  I then canceled the disk backup schedule which fixed the boot time issue.

    My question is: Does anyone know why Windows Backup and Restore is giving me 5 minute boot times and is there a way to make it work without resulting in these boot delays?  Do I need to partition the drive differently or is there a way to delay the start-up of Backup and Restore?

    System Specs Follow:

    Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit

    CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz

    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

    Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-WS

    Memory: 32GB (31.95GB Usable)

    Boot Drive: ASUS Rog Raidr Express 240GB PCIe SSD

    Primary Storage Drive: Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB

    Backup Drive: WD BLACK SERIES WD4003FZEX 4TB

    • Edited by Shibboleet Monday, July 7, 2014 5:07 AM
    Friday, July 4, 2014 6:31 PM

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  • Set logging in F8 menu and analyze boot logs.



    Friday, July 4, 2014 8:20 PM
  • Alright.  I enabled logging in msconfig (that part of boot goes to fast to interrupt with f8).  There were a number of drivers that did not load successfully.

    By testing with and without the drive there are no differences in the drivers that fail to load thus they are ruled out as being the source of the delay.  I have run a check-disk on my drive and it comes out as being okay. 

    Note:  The SATA controller I am using is a Z77 Intel SATA controller.  The Marvell controller on the motherboard is both disabled in the bios and not connected to any hard drives.  I cannot use that controller as it interferes with the built in raid controller on the boot drive.

    All SATA drivers are up-to-date and as of this post I am in the process of re-installing them just to be sure.

    In case anyone wants to know the drivers that fail to load are:


    • Edited by Shibboleet Monday, July 7, 2014 5:08 AM
    Sunday, July 6, 2014 4:48 PM
  • I have reformatted the drive and that has temporally resolved the problem.  I will now re-enable windows backup and see if the issue returns.
    • Edited by Shibboleet Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:39 PM
    Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:25 PM
  • The problem has returned after re-enabling windows backup....  Any thoughts.  Taking a look at windows event viewer it seems most of the boot-time was spend on BootSmssInitTime (not sure if that means anything, looking into it).

    Boot event information (sensitive information removed):

    Log Name:      Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational
    Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
    Date:          7/6/2014 8:35:25 PM
    Event ID:      100
    Task Category: Boot Performance Monitoring
    Level:         Error
    Windows has started up: 
         Boot Duration		:	129632ms
         IsDegradation		:	false
        <Data Name="BootTsVersion">2</Data>
        <Data Name="BootStartTime">2014-07-07T00:59:02.640400200Z</Data>
        <Data Name="BootEndTime">2014-07-07T01:35:22.200157100Z</Data>
        <Data Name="SystemBootInstance">63</Data>
        <Data Name="UserBootInstance">53</Data>
        <Data Name="BootTime">129632</Data>
        <Data Name="MainPathBootTime">94332</Data>
        <Data Name="BootKernelInitTime">18</Data>
        <Data Name="BootDriverInitTime">1201</Data>
        <Data Name="BootDevicesInitTime">1627</Data>
        <Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootSmssInitTime">85874</Data>
        <Data Name="BootCriticalServicesInitTime">403</Data>
        <Data Name="BootUserProfileProcessingTime">430</Data>
        <Data Name="BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootExplorerInitTime">4455</Data>
        <Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">8</Data>
        <Data Name="BootPostBootTime">35300</Data>
        <Data Name="BootIsRebootAfterInstall">false</Data>
        <Data Name="BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootIsDegradation">false</Data>
        <Data Name="BootIsStepDegradation">false</Data>
        <Data Name="BootIsGradualDegradation">false</Data>
        <Data Name="BootImprovementDelta">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootDegradationDelta">0</Data>
        <Data Name="BootIsRootCauseIdentified">false</Data>
        <Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">1657</Data>
        <Data Name="BootPNPInitStartTimeMS">18</Data>
        <Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">2423</Data>
        <Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">397</Data>
        <Data Name="SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS">2815</Data>
        <Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">405</Data>
        <Data Name="SessionInitStartTimeMS">3226</Data>
        <Data Name="Session0InitDuration">1763</Data>
        <Data Name="Session1InitDuration">639</Data>
        <Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">83470</Data>
        <Data Name="WinLogonStartTimeMS">89100</Data>
        <Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">345</Data>
        <Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">1998267</Data>

    Monday, July 7, 2014 2:18 AM
  • Hi,

    Please go to the event viewer to collect the events during startup time.

    Meanwhile, I am curious how you configured your backup setting. Could you give us the details? I would like to have a test in my environment, maybe we can find something.

    Alex Zhao
    TechNet Community Support

    • Edited by Cloud_TS Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:27 AM
    Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:14 AM