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What happened to snap and glue options? RRS feed

  • Question

  • I'm generally fine with the ribbon for actions. However for options that I need to turn on and off on a by object basis they need to be accessible and I can't even find the snaps and glues which had their own toolbar before. Where did they go and is there anyway to get access to them in mass instead of adding them 1-by-1 to the QAT?

    Friday, February 12, 2010 10:56 PM

Answers

  • The dialog can be accessed from the View tab.  It is the Visual Aids group. Select the small arrow in the lower right portion of the group.
    • Marked as answer by Fred Diggs Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:38 PM
    Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:10 AM

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  • The dialog can be accessed from the View tab.  It is the Visual Aids group. Select the small arrow in the lower right portion of the group.
    • Marked as answer by Fred Diggs Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:38 PM
    Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:10 AM
  • Very obvious indeed.  It's a good thing MS has made all of these efforts to make our life easier.  Ironic that I keep having to Google things around to find where things are hidden nowadays, where as I never had to do it before.
    Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:27 PM
  • I second that sentiment.  I have been cursing @ Visio 2010 since I installed it.  I'm not seeing any really good reasons why anyone should upgrade from 2007.  While it is easier to bring up shapes its harder to do and find the core functions like this one.

    Anyway, thanks for asking the question so I could find it on google.

    Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:24 AM
  • Even though I recently had changed the glue setting, I could not remember where it was and could NOT find it after search through the entire ribbon.  After the miserable online help failed me, I tried an internet search and was lucky to find this post.  Funny thing is, I consciously *dismissed* the View tab as the place to find a dialog for turning on and off glue (it doesn't have anything to do with the view!)
    Monday, January 10, 2011 10:58 PM
  • I, too, looked on the Visio online help for "Glue" and could not find the entry.  *sigh*  And Snap and Glue have nothing to do with Visual Aids.  They are Layout functions and belong in "Design > Layout."

    I'm very disappointed in what MS has done to Visio.  Nearly every keyboard shortcut requires 2-3 keyboard keys (as with other 2007+ Office products) but what's worse is that Visio is a design tool so the mouse is contstantly in my right hand.  Many of the shortcuts require left and right sides of the keyboard.

    While the new Office ribbon is meant to help novice and intermediate Information Workers find the functionality that would not usually be exposed through the classic menus, it really screws the power users.  Visio is not a novice or intermediate Office product.  It should have been designed with a power user in mind.

    I had to create a custom toolbar but not all the functions have buttons, such as Distribute Shapes.

     

    *sigh*


    Ann
    Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:13 PM
  • It’s always a pain to have to relearn an updated UI.  It always makes you feel like I’m pulling your hair out with something you would normally be proficient at.  I don’t mind reorganizing when it is for the better but unfortunately when a function is moved to a place that it DOES NOT belong like “Snap & Glue” in this circumstance it really irritates you.

     

    This is too typical of MS’s very poorly managed cross functional team.  If management would lay-out a good function flow chart for all organizational teams to abide by this kind of nonsense wouldn’t happen.   It is obvious that the programmer that made the decision to put a function control under View didn’t understand the tool, nor did the group that reviews their work.  This shows multiple layers of an organization at fault and again doesn’t say much good about MS’s management team.  Nothing new of course!

     

    This function should be part of the “Home/Arrange” group were you find other tools like “Auto Align & Space” now that would make more sense wouldn’t it?

     

    Once again bang up job on poor programming!

    Wednesday, March 2, 2011 9:39 AM
  • I agree that Snap & Glue don't have anything to do with Visual Aides.  Thankfully in Office 2010 you can customize the ribbon.  Because I toggle snap and glue often enough, I created another ribbon tab for snap and glue.  You can import and export ribbon customizations in Visio 2010.

    Here's the customization file.  Copy this text to notepad and save it as "Visio Customizations.exportedUI".  Then, import this file in Visio by going to File -> Options -> Customize Ribbon -> Import/Export -> Import Customization File.

    <mso:cmd app="Visio" dt="1" /><mso:customUI xmlns:mso="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2009/07/customui"><mso:ribbon><mso:qat/><mso:tabs><mso:tab id="mso_c1.2EC6FC8C" label="Snap &amp;&amp; Glue" insertBeforeQ="mso:TabData"><mso:group id="mso_c2.2EC6FC8C" label="Snap" autoScale="true"><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToggle" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToAlignmentBox" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToDrawingAids" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToGridVisio" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToRulerSubdivisions" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToShapeIntersections" visible="true"/></mso:group><mso:group id="mso_c3.2EC83393" label="Glue" autoScale="true"><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToggle" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToConnectionPoints" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToGuides" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToShapeGeometry" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToShapeHandles" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToShapeVertices" visible="true"/></mso:group><mso:group id="mso_c1.2ECA6359" label="Advanced" autoScale="true"><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapAndGlueDialog" imageMso="QueryUnionQuery" visible="true"/></mso:group></mso:tab></mso:tabs></mso:ribbon></mso:customUI>
    
    


    Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:09 PM
  • I have been using MS products for 25 years, working in the IT department of a small college.  This is the first time i have made an entry to a forum like this, simply to express my frustration at Microsoft for chaging the UI so much that it is virtually hair-pulling every time I want to create something in Visio.  I WILL not recommend MS products anymore, simply because they've made a product I used to use (VISIO) very UNFRIENDLY to the non-new users who used to know how to do things. -- Microsoft, you've lost my vote, you'd think programmers there would find a way to allow their legacy users to switch to the legacy UI.   Microsoft has made me feel like a legacy.  Thank you.... NOT.   -- Unhappy with Microsoft in Maine.

    Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:45 PM
  • I am in the same boat as tom177. I couldn't agree more.

    I would have to agree with all that it is not intuitive.

    Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:21 PM
  • I couldn't agree more. I still keep having to google things I could easily find in earlier iterations of Office. The ribbon is a gigantic failure in usability.

    I hate the ribbon with a vengeance!

    Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:14 AM
  • I just want to add a vote that this UI move is not intuitive at all. This is actually the second time I have had to google it.  I probably wasted an hour of my company's time trying to find this myself before ultimately googling it. Typing variations of "snap glue" into Microsoft's help system do not help.
    Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:40 PM
  • NullMan, you just made my day.

    This IS a frustrating problem, but at least I've now been able to modify Visio 2010 to a point where it is ALMOST as functional as the 2007 I've learned on.

    Thank you, thank you.

    Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:28 PM
  • Thanks, that helps.  However, the problem is it doesn't seem to work.  When I put my options to have only snap and glue active and only connection points available in "Snap to" and "Glue to" the connectors still won't find the connection points at the "far end" (what I'm connecting to as oppose to what I'm connecting from).
    • Edited by regnarok Thursday, August 14, 2014 4:16 PM
    Thursday, August 14, 2014 4:09 PM
  • It's even worse than what you indicate. There is no distinction now between SNAP and GLUE in 2013. You turn off SNAP (which is what draws an object to another), but if GLUE is on, the entire object, not just the end-point you are dragging, jumps. The only way to prevent an object (like a callout) from jumping is to turn BOTH SNAP and GLUE off, which, of course, makes the whole concept useless. If I put out an upgrade like this I'd be fired.
    Monday, October 27, 2014 3:30 PM
  • And this also works in Visio 2013, happily.
    Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:12 PM
  • Thanks,

    I guess I will be back on TechNet much more frequently now I need to use Visio again after a few years break.

    I really do not understand why MS feel compelled to muck around with the UI.

    Visio users everywhere hate having to relearn the product on every new version.

    A new UI is not an improvement, it is just different.

    Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:54 PM
  • I cannot agree more, with the general sentiment on this post.  Not just Visio, but PowerPoint also got screwed with.  I used to fly through the menus when it came to alignment.  I still have those letters in my muscle memory - Alt (whatever it is, my index finger knows it, I don't) and the variations were so obvious - C for center, etc.  I believe it took only two strikes to align my shapes.  Now there's some unintuitive letter, that merely gets you up into the menus, and you have to hit at least 2 others just to get to the alignments.  Horrible.  Hair pulling - no kidding! It makes me feel like I've been put behind a box with no wheels and I have to push it to get anywhere.  And we're on a Microsoft forum!  Why the heck hasn't MS weighed in?  Why do they care?  To have the false appearance of being helpful?

    BTW, as others have said as well, I have had to research every time I want to change snap or glue functions, because "View" is not the right place for them.  Thank god for Google.  And yes, MS Help is miserable.  ("Was this information helpful?"  Teeth gnashing)

    Monday, January 25, 2016 8:51 PM