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    hello,

    I got windows 10 via the update centre and and the activation status is: ACTIVATED.

    I want to know the product key of my copy, to use it in future installations. is it okay to know it from a 3rd party program.

    I want to know how to make an ISO copy in order to burn it to a flash drive or DVD to perform clean install of Windows 10

    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:56 PM

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    There are no unique win 10 keys like there was in the past.  When you update it checks your underlying OS and validates the license and registers the hardware.  Then it adds a unique installation ID to the install.  The "key" is kept on the activation servers should you ever need it in the future it will check with those servers and confirm your ID

    Windows 10 handles keys differently.  When you upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update from Windows 8.1(or win 7 SP-1) registers your computers hardware, and qualifying OS with a Microsoft Product Activation Server. The device is then considered a Windows 10 device.

    Subsequently anytime you re-install (or clean install) the installation checks with those servers, finds the unique installation ID and produces the validation

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    • Marked as answer by msououd97 Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:13 PM
    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:02 PM
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    There are no unique win 10 keys like there was in the past.  When you update it checks your underlying OS and validates the license and registers the hardware.  Then it adds a unique installation ID to the install.  The "key" is kept on the activation servers should you ever need it in the future it will check with those servers and confirm your ID

    Windows 10 handles keys differently.  When you upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update from Windows 8.1(or win 7 SP-1) registers your computers hardware, and qualifying OS with a Microsoft Product Activation Server. The device is then considered a Windows 10 device.

    Subsequently anytime you re-install (or clean install) the installation checks with those servers, finds the unique installation ID and produces the validation

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    So what I'm gathering from this is:

    1. I can't fresh install Windows 10 if I don't have a 7 or 8 installed ?

    2. I have 40 PCs with 1 img, so I need to upgrade every single pc to 10, then run a fresh installation ?

    3. If I replace a hardware, my unique installation ID will change, so if I want to reinstall Win10 I'll need to install 7 or 8, then upgrade and THEN fresh install ?

    Thanks

    • Marked as answer by msououd97 Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:29 AM
    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:11 PM

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    There are no unique win 10 keys like there was in the past.  When you update it checks your underlying OS and validates the license and registers the hardware.  Then it adds a unique installation ID to the install.  The "key" is kept on the activation servers should you ever need it in the future it will check with those servers and confirm your ID

    Windows 10 handles keys differently.  When you upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update from Windows 8.1(or win 7 SP-1) registers your computers hardware, and qualifying OS with a Microsoft Product Activation Server. The device is then considered a Windows 10 device.

    Subsequently anytime you re-install (or clean install) the installation checks with those servers, finds the unique installation ID and produces the validation

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    • Marked as answer by msououd97 Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:13 PM
    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:02 PM
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    There are no unique win 10 keys like there was in the past.  When you update it checks your underlying OS and validates the license and registers the hardware.  Then it adds a unique installation ID to the install.  The "key" is kept on the activation servers should you ever need it in the future it will check with those servers and confirm your ID

    Windows 10 handles keys differently.  When you upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update from Windows 8.1(or win 7 SP-1) registers your computers hardware, and qualifying OS with a Microsoft Product Activation Server. The device is then considered a Windows 10 device.

    Subsequently anytime you re-install (or clean install) the installation checks with those servers, finds the unique installation ID and produces the validation

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    So what I'm gathering from this is:

    1. I can't fresh install Windows 10 if I don't have a 7 or 8 installed ?

    2. I have 40 PCs with 1 img, so I need to upgrade every single pc to 10, then run a fresh installation ?

    3. If I replace a hardware, my unique installation ID will change, so if I want to reinstall Win10 I'll need to install 7 or 8, then upgrade and THEN fresh install ?

    Thanks

    • Marked as answer by msououd97 Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:29 AM
    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:11 PM
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    1-You can clean install anytime after upgrading the underlying OS.  You cannot do a clean install unless you have "validated" first

    2-That is a bit problematic.  I have no idea if an image would work as I have not tried it yet'

    3-Once upgraded you can change any hardware since the installation ID is tied to the original OS/license.  If the original OS ID was OEM then the win 10 ID is also OEM.  If the original OS was retail then the win 10 will also be retail.

    With either license type you can change ram, HD, etc but not the mobo as that would change the Installation ID

    After upgrading you can clean install as often as you like and on whatever partition you want.

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:23 PM
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    RE : I want to know the product key of my copy, to use it in future installations. is it okay to know it from a 3rd party program.

    Don't need it. Please read a reply from Gabriel Aul..............

    RE : I want to know how to make an ISO copy in order to burn it to a flash drive or DVD to perform clean install of Windows 10

    You can download Media Creation Tool > run it and create an ISO file.

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/software-download/windows10?OCID=reserve_r_PostReserve_MediaCreationTool

    1. Make sure you pick the correct bit-version.
    2. When you run the Tool, select Create installation media for another PC option. That will start to create an ISO file.

    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:10 PM
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    1-You can clean install anytime after upgrading the underlying OS.  You cannot do a clean install unless you have "validated" first

    2-That is a bit problematic.  I have no idea if an image would work as I have not tried it yet'

    3-Once upgraded you can change any hardware since the installation ID is tied to the original OS/license.  If the original OS ID was OEM then the win 10 ID is also OEM.  If the original OS was retail then the win 10 will also be retail.

    With either license type you can change ram, HD, etc but not the mobo as that would change the Installation ID

    After upgrading you can clean install as often as you like and on whatever partition you want.

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag


    Is this true also for the ENT ?
    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:52 PM
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    Is this true also for the ENT ?
    No, because Enterprise editions do not store Hardware IDs in the MSFT cloud at all. Enterprise editions use Volume Activation principles, which are very different to OEM/Retail.

    Don
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    Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:40 PM
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    1-You can clean install anytime after upgrading the underlying OS.  You cannot do a clean install unless you have "validated" first

    2-That is a bit problematic.  I have no idea if an image would work as I have not tried it yet'

    3-Once upgraded you can change any hardware since the installation ID is tied to the original OS/license.  If the original OS ID was OEM then the win 10 ID is also OEM.  If the original OS was retail then the win 10 will also be retail.

    With either license type you can change ram, HD, etc but not the mobo as that would change the Installation ID

    After upgrading you can clean install as often as you like and on whatever partition you want.

    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

    So basically, the Retail version now will only be good as a OEM since there is no keys and it relys on Hardware IDs now.
    There is now way to transfer that license to a new system or motherboard without doing a fresh install of the previous Retail version of windows, if that was the way to do it, then that way will only be good for a year ?

    Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:18 AM
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    Yes, that is basicly what the MS support told when I asked how it was an upgrade if I cant use it after one year. "You could always buy a Windows 10 license". Already did, once.
    Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:34 PM