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  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press. I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan
    Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:33 PM

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  • I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP.
    May I know where did you read that?
    W7 RTM x64 running along with Office 2010 x64 TP hope my computer won't crash! ;)
    Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:22 PM
  • I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP.
    May I know where did you read that?

    Same place where he heard that W7 was developed with XP as a base.

    Doc
    Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:45 PM

  • I really like to trust ppl, but sometimes is so hard to believe the statistics they try to show.
    W7 RTM x64 running along with Office 2010 x64 TP hope my computer won't crash! ;)
    Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:03 PM
  • CT -

    Er.. XP as the base? You really need a better source of information.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 1:56 AM
  • Of course Windows 7 was derived from XP.  It's a *gasp* known fact that Vista was derived from XP and Windows 7 was derived from Vista.

    And 73% of all computers in some unspecified particular group of computers actually were downgraded to XP.

    And did you know that Microsoft actually released a FREE vesion of Windows 7?!?

    Many people reading this thread right now are actually interested in buying timeshares built near bridges for sale over swamp land in Florida.

    -Noel

    Friday, August 14, 2009 2:11 AM
  • Of course Windows 7 was derived from XP.  It's a *gasp* known fact that Vista was derived from XP and Windows 7 was derived from Vista.

    -Noel

    Of course, if you are going to put it that way, Windows 7 was derived from OS/2, since NT 3.1 was derived from OS/2, which started as a joint project between Microsoft and IBM.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 2:17 AM
  • And let's not forget the influence of Vax VMS on NT.  And so on.

    I think it's safe to say Windows 7 comes from Eniac, and of course was influenced by the computer on the Enterprise.  I know it occasionally convinces itself it's illogical and shorts out.  :)

    -Noel
    Friday, August 14, 2009 2:47 AM
  • And let's not forget the influence of Vax VMS on NT.  And so on.

    I think it's safe to say Windows 7 comes from Eniac, and of course was influenced by the computer on the Enterprise.  I know it occasionally convinces itself it's illogical and shorts out.  :)

    -Noel

    LOL!
    Friday, August 14, 2009 2:57 AM
  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan


    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample.

    Just to piss you off.

    Equally.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 4:03 AM
  • XP begat vista, vista begat 7. It has to start somwhere.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 4:14 AM


  • ...and Mr7, you missed my point.



    The Vista/XP starting-point has nothing to do with anything.  He was just shoving useless internet info up your nose.  Get it?

    Friday, August 14, 2009 4:21 AM
  • XP begat vista, vista begat 7. It has to start somwhere.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 5:36 AM
  • Ok, let's (try to) set the record straight...

    Windows 7 was NOT based on XP!!  It is based on Vista which was NOT based on XP.  Vista was a clean slate build, from the ground up which, explains why you can't go from XP to Windows 7 as an upgrade path.  Also explains why there will be difficulties doing things between XP & Windows 7.

    Have no idea where you got 73%.  Some users stayed w/ XP due to a lot of misguided bad hype Vista received in the beginning... I say misguided cus it was mostly based on compatibility issues due to 3rd party vendors & manufacturers not ready for it & ppl wrongly put the blame on Vista.  Some Enterprise customers needed XP for some apps so some new machines were downgraded for that reason... it is also why XP Mode is in Windows 7.

    As for MS "waking up"... Not only according to OS life-cycles was a new OS due but, MS approached Windows 7 in an effort & w/ an aim & goal to addressing the complaints that existed towards Vista.  Consequently it is superior to & more appealing than Vista & both are better than XP, certainly under the covers & in many ways.

    I used XP for years, beta tested Vista & Windows 7.  Have worked w/ many clients through XP & Vista.  I am, now, very excited to guide them into Windows 7.  The improvements (over Vista) in Windows 7 are beyond dispute.

    Yes, support for XP will last til 2014 but, is it staying mired in the past? no question it is.  I liked XP but, Windows 7 is extremely advanced compared to XP.

    Bashing MS I know is a really cool thing to do but, so is appreciating the value of Windows 7 & the good sense & value to technological progress.
    Drew - MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues
    Friday, August 14, 2009 5:39 AM
  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan


    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample of that info.

    Just to piss you off.

    Equally.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 5:46 AM
  • Ok, let's (try to) set the record straight...

    Windows 7 was NOT based on XP!!  It is based on Vista which was NOT based on XP.  Vista was a clean slate build, from the ground up which, explains why you can't go from XP to Windows 7 as an upgrade path.  Also explains why there will be difficulties doing things between XP & Windows 7.

    Have no idea where you got 73%.  Some users stayed w/ XP due to a lot of misguided bad hype Vista received in the beginning... I say misguided cus it was mostly based on compatibility issues due to 3rd party vendors & manufacturers not ready for it & ppl wrongly put the blame on Vista.  Some Enterprise customers needed XP for some apps so some new machines were downgraded for that reason... it is also why XP Mode is in Windows 7.

    As for MS "waking up"... Not only according to OS life-cycles was a new OS due but, MS approached Windows 7 in an effort & w/ an aim & goal to addressing the complaints that existed towards Vista.  Consequently it is superior to & more appealing than Vista & both are better than XP, certainly under the covers & in many ways.

    I used XP for years, beta tested Vista & Windows 7.  Have worked w/ many clients through XP & Vista.  I am, now, very excited to guide them into Windows 7.  The improvements (over Vista) in Windows 7 are beyond dispute.

    Yes, support for XP will last til 2014 but, is it staying mired in the past? no question it is.  I liked XP but, Windows 7 is extremely advanced compared to XP.

    Bashing MS I know is a really cool thing to do but, so is appreciating the value of Windows 7 & the good sense & value to technological progress.
    Drew - MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues

    VISTA is a revision of XP and has a lot of revised code based on XP.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 5:51 AM
  • XP begat vista, vista begat 7.
    It all started many years ago in a land called.......
    Friday, August 14, 2009 5:54 AM
  • Then just stay with XP.

    Friday, August 14, 2009 5:57 AM
  • Then just stay with XP.



    You mean CP/M-80.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:01 AM
  • He may have bean shoving it up your schnoz instead. What's your point?

    To get back to the original topic:

    the op heard that 7 was based on xp.

    OK.

    Do you think 7 would exist now today if it had no predecessors such as XP?
    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:16 AM
  • He may have bean shoving it up your schnoz instead. What's your point?

    To get back to the original topic:

    the op heard that 7 was based on xp.

    OK.

    Do you think 7 would exist now today if it had no predecessors such as XP?


    The point is, the topic here is   Windows 7 - An improvement? ? ? ?   and why might Tex have posted such a message.




    You, Mr7,  are perpetuating a ridiculous debate over a meaningless tangent.

    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:21 AM

  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan



    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample of that info.

    Just to irritate you.

    Equally.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:23 AM
  • Certainly not... in the sense that all OSs are steps along the IT roadmap.
    Drew - MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues
    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:23 AM

  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan



    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample of that info.

    Just to piss you off.

    Equally.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:24 AM
  • My apologies for derosnics tasteless posts He always makes a mockery out of the my replies.
    May he be reminded of the community code of conduct?

    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:24 AM

  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan



    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample of that info.

    Just to irritate you.

    Equally.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:27 AM
  • derosnic I really wish you would stop interfearing every time I post.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 6:38 AM

  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan



    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample of that info.

    Just to irritate you.

    Equally.



    No doubt, if Tex could've gotten Win7 running (or even Vista), he'd have loved it.

    It is important for Microsoft to hear his story about why he gave up.

    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:04 AM
  • Certainly not... in the sense that all OSs are steps along the IT roadmap.
    Drew - MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues
    Just my point. Part of the evolutionary process.


    • Edited by ONE ZERO Friday, August 14, 2009 7:38 AM
    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:10 AM

  • I had heard that Windows 7 was developed with XP as a base. I was really looking forward to geting a newer OS that was easily managed. It wasn't! I paid the price and downloaded the RC version and have spent over 40 hours attempting to connect to a simple, home, XP network. Seven has the same inherent roadblocks as Vista.

    Online and F1 help is catch-as-catch-can. No definite fixes for problems, just 'Try this, it worked for me.'. Oh well, another week shot to you know where. Microsoft is going to have to extend support for XP until they have the sense to develop an OS that is easily manageable for the average user. I have been using PC's as long as there have been PC's and M$ has done nothing to top XP. Why can't they see that. I saw a statistic that 73% of all Vista computers have been downgraded to XP. I've even done about a dozen for my customers. WAKE UP MICROSOFT!

    This will probably never see daylight on the forums because, like the Obama blitz, M$ doesn't like the bad press.
    I've had my say anyway, and will now go back to XP and try to keep my customers productive.

    central_texan



    You guys missed Tex's point.

    He's frustrated with useless lip-service support.

    So he gave you a sample of that info.

    Just to irritate you.

    Equally.



    No doubt, if Tex could've gotten Win7 running (or even Vista), he'd have loved it.

    It is important for Microsoft to hear his story about why he gave up.

    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:20 AM
  • Derosnic, becouse of your trolling many of my posts have bean deleted.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:23 AM


  • Please see my opinion here.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:28 AM
  • Go away D.
    XP begat vista, vista begat 7. It has to start somwhere.
    • Edited by ONE ZERO Friday, August 14, 2009 7:31 AM
    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:28 AM


  • Please see my opinion here.


    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:35 AM
  • XP begat vista, vista begat 7, nothing comes from nothing.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 7:56 AM
  • Your a troll.
    Friday, August 14, 2009 8:13 AM