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DPM 2016 backup only the HyperV container (covering all vhds) or install agent on the VM and backup file level?

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  • I noticed or maybe never noticed with previous versions... that if you backup the hyperv container for a given VM.. it backs up the VHDS.. so if you have C and D for instance, both are included, this much i realized.. but i'm noticing that you can drill inside the VM's vhds for individual files..

    In the past i've always installed the agent on the VM itself, and configured DPM to backup those files..

    I'm wondering what do most do.. do they just do the container and rely on drilling in to restore individual files?  What if the VHD becomes corrupt.. i would think having the VM's individual files via its own agent may have value? Or maybe not?  I go back 30 days on our recovery points.. so i suppose you could just try to go back a few extra days before corruption (though i've never ran into corruption per say)..

    Any thoughts.. how are most doing this?


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    Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:37 PM

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  • I'm guessing doing the host only container backup might have an exception when dealing with say sharepoint/sql backups?  So perhaps in these situations, an agent on the virtual server guest may still be needed.

    We dont run exchange locally anymore, so thats not a concern (office 365).


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    Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:40 PM
  • Noone has dealt with this scenario before out there?

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    Wednesday, February 21, 2018 4:32 PM
  • We do primarily backups of the entire VM both for VMWare and Hyper-V.  Had to restore one fully the other day to VMWare and I have to be honest, it was the smoothest Bare Metal Restore I've ever done - literally chose the VM, the datastore, hit Go, powered the VM on, and done.  I don't really want backup to be a fulltime job, and the disk is cheap enough that it's not worth the effort and issues when someone adds a disk or whatever and forgets to add it to DPM.

    Some of our larger SQL databases we do agents for (between the BAK files the DBA create plus just the database it got too massive, especially to replicate to Azure for offsite).  We also do agent-based for AD backups (dont bother backing up the DC VMs).  Other than those it is full VM backups.


    Sunday, February 25, 2018 1:30 PM
  • We do primarily backups of the entire VM both for VMWare and Hyper-V.  Had to restore one fully the other day to VMWare and I have to be honest, it was the smoothest Bare Metal Restore I've ever done - literally chose the VM, the datastore, hit Go, powered the VM on, and done.  I don't really want backup to be a fulltime job, and the disk is cheap enough that it's not worth the effort and issues when someone adds a disk or whatever and forgets to add it to DPM.

    Some of our larger SQL databases we do agents for (between the BAK files the DBA create plus just the database it got too massive, especially to replicate to Azure for offsite).  We also do agent-based for AD backups (dont bother backing up the DC VMs).  Other than those it is full VM backups.


    Thank you for replying.. this is good info.. this is what i've assumed as well.   

    Do you run sharepoint locally as well, do you run 2016?  I noticed there is a sharepoint container, maybe it was on the recovery page.. but i dont see this under any of my vm's even the guests that i installed the client on, where you would think you'd have a checkbox for sharepoint.. in our case we run sharepoint IIS on one box and sql on another.. I think i had a client on the IIS at one point and of course on the sql, in either case, recovery/sharepoint shows nothing.. wondering what that is for


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    Wednesday, February 28, 2018 4:12 PM