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Exchange 2007 on Win 2008SBS two services will not start after Attempted migration to Win 2012

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  • Hi all,

    I did a backup of al this first, but do not wish to go down that path yet of restoring it

    I didn't use Win backup as I find it unreliable and no matter what I tried, even though Storage manager found both my External USB drives, it's back up would not find them.

    Used a 30 day trial of AOEMI Backupper software for Servers.

    http://www.backup-utility.com/free-trial.html

    I did a migrate from Win SBS 2008 Stand to Win 2012 Essentials, using it's migration wizard and installing updates and software old system required.

    It al seemed to go okay, I know you have 21 days to have both systems on same network.

    But I have ran into a snag. Our external hosted email user@domain.com.au.com, which we access via Exchange 2007 which is delivered to our Outlook 2013 program on virtual drive running Win 2012 Data at this stage. after migration would not receive any emails. Pop3 connector service had stopped.

    What I also noticed on VM Outlook, I had to log onto my Account on server to get Outlook to load, another user did not.

    Checked Event log for error 1053.

    Two services for Exchange on 2008 Physical drive are timing out.

    Transport edge and 

    Even though they are set to auto start and also to start on 1st and 2nd failure, do not start or manually start.

    Where can I look at trouble shooting this?

    All other Exchange services are running.

    I did notice last eve that the Win 2012 domain was listed under Ad on Win 2008 system, I removed it as per instructions MS has about that. In case it was dominating. s Email exchange did work to a degree on last Saturday only when I had new server running Win 2012 Ess on same network. But from Migration instructions on MS site, one can have two domain systems running on same network for 21 days after migration. 

    I am not getting any pop3 event errors about this and not sure where services errors get logged.?

    Suspect I found problem, Open exchange Manag console "error comes up, "Could not find any Global Catalog in forest when launching Exchange 2007 Management Console "

    I just read on MS support

    https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/exchange/en-US/5e15831d-2177-4afb-86aa-eb5e4920093d/could-not-find-any-global-catalog-in-forest-when-launching-exchange-2007-management-console?forum=exchangesvradminlegacy

    to restart these services, Toplogy one started itself and others okay but not the System attendant.

    More investigating I shall do.

    Thanks

    Phil

    Snapshots of messages I get form these services.


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    • Edited by philby12 Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:47 AM More details
    Monday, April 17, 2017 10:53 PM

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  • Hi Philby12,

    Windows Server 2012 Essentials does not include Exchange Server as a component product, we do support running Exchange Server on a second server, and we provide a similar integrated mailbox management experience via the Dashboard as we had with Windows Small Business Server (Windows SBS) 2011 Standard.
    https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/sbs/2012/07/26/email-options-supported-by-windows-server-2012-essentials/


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    Jim Xu
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    Tuesday, April 18, 2017 2:03 AM
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  • Hi Jim and thanks for reply.

    Yes aware of how one can set up exchange in Win 2012, can even put it one a virtual server as well, so I read on MS site.

    Or one could use Office 365. Still making my mind up which way I go.

    But these problems relate to the Exchange 2007 on Windows 2008 SBS server.

    I never got that far with 2012 to set up email on it. 

    Cheers

    Phil


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    Tuesday, April 18, 2017 2:33 AM
  • Hi philby,

    You could put Windows server 2012 into a virtual server. To service not start on Exchange 2007, we suggest you do the following steps to troubleshoot this issue:

    1. Make sure Exchange 2007 connect to domain controller without any problems, include Ping and DNS resolve
    2. Double confirm root certificate is under “trusted root certification authorities ”
    3. Try to restart Exchange 2007 out of production time
    4. Check if there are any errors in application log and post them for our troubleshooting 

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    Jim Xu
    TechNet Community Support


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    Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:48 AM
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  • Thanks Jim for reply and help.

    I'll give that a go tomorrow.

    What annoys me as I said, I have back ups of this and software I used is not finding them, yet the 5 I did before migration I checked intregrerty of them.

    Now it only finds the latest one past Migration date.

    I have been able to get the data off one of drives using Sofware handy recovery, but it is finding the right image file to restore it to our newer server which I have for time been put 2008 on to test a restore of a back up.

    You have any sugegstions of software that would find what I need from these back ups, Windows 2008 was doing back ups every night on two disks until 3 weeks ago, when it just refused to find the two external HP USB 2 drives it had happily used for ages. Even though both were online and active in storage manager.

    Here is what I have extracted so far to another drive using that software,

    Cheers Phil


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    Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:51 AM
  • Hi Phil,

    To solve this issue, please give us any updates for this thread as soon as possible.

    For any missing data which you backup, please contact the backup vendor to get any help.


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    Jim Xu
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    Friday, April 21, 2017 2:14 AM
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  • HI Jim, how's things.

    I didn't get far doing that with Win 2012.

    But I did some checks on existing 2008SBS system on DC etc.

    Snapshots below is what they came up.

    Any advice you can provide me with what to change to adjust this would be appicated.

    Thanks

    Phil

    I have put Win 2008 onto new server and will set up exchange from scratch.

    So I have something to compare against.

    Just on a off topic slightly, is there a backup version for Win 2008 more recent than Version 1?

    I watched a y-tube video the other day of someone who was actually able to custom backup folders and restore them, as in the exchange folders. I cannot get old server to update win 2008, Wsus has gone screwy.

    Not my doing.

    Or how does one fix that, tried to get a Update agent to run, but no success.

    ps I have tried vendor for backup issues, by moving USB drive I suspect without making it first offline upset things, as if I plug that USB drive into another system,new server or win 10 system

    it will not allow me to assign it Drive letter G under Dmgr. Strange, always wants to call it H or later.


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    Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:01 AM
  • Hi philby12,

    I still suggest you contact the vendor of backup if this is an backup issue. If I misunderstand, please be free to let me know.

    In addition, Exchange 2007 is out of support, we suggest you upgrade Exchange 2007 to Exchange 2010 SP3 or higher version, thanks for your understanding and support.


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    Jim Xu
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    Monday, May 01, 2017 1:47 AM
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  • Thanks for reply Jim

    Yes that is what I am doing re HP Disks.

    I've been trying to get my current sinus effected head around this article at TechNet about other ways to access backups.

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc754015.aspx

    As I think I have said, what has caused Windows backup to go nuts with this G assigned path for the HP drive that contains most of the backups windows did itself over past 3 years, is around it loosing that Drive letter when taken offline. I was speaking to someone I know who manages his father's medical practice servers today and he has never come across this issue, as I am sure you know Backups can be kept offsite, well how can they be, if once one removes a external USB drive off the server, it refuses to keep the drive letter assigned to it.

    Anyway ran into another snag here and this again get  back to original person who set this server up, Windows doesn't update, sure it id for the migration I attempted, but the WSUS folder is not even where it should be. From what I can tell.

    How can I get Exchange 2010 without Windows update running or how can I get updates to start again and repair this issue.

    Is this article the right way I can do it?

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/971058/how-do-i-reset-windows-update-components#!/en-au/help/971058/how-do-i-reset-windows-update-components

    Thanks

    Phil


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    Wednesday, May 03, 2017 12:22 PM
  • Hi Jim, how are you.,

    You kindly tried to help me out with my Windows 2008 server issues and Exchange 2007.

     

    I finally sorted out thanks to a quick tutorial video I found on how to get my existing exchange to recoin the DC / Global CatLog.

     

    Simple tick of a check box did it.

    Exchange services al now run, but pop3 still doesn’t check for emails.

    Should the MSExchangeTransport service be network or local?

     

     

    Now I have an issue which I am sure the migration caused and to get Win 2012 R2 Stand which is what I am using as my test lab machine, which is now al set up as a DC and DNS. To get exchange onto it. I need to do a migration of exchange 2007 only, which is what I should have done in first place, not migrate whole win 2008 stand server. Well that is what I have read at many TechNet sites and lost on a site on your tube Lunda.com where they have many training videos on this.

     

    But I have not actual full Administrator account user on the old 2008 system.  Also explains why I cannot do any updates to get Exchange 2010 on it.

    I am doing this first using a virtual program so I do not stuff up anything in real world.

    Would you kindly look at the screen shot below and tell me if I am in the right place to do what I need to.

     

    Following Microsoft articles is quite confusing at times and not clear to follow.

    Thanks

    Phil


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    Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:49 AM