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    hi all

    i would like to know if there is anyway tat i can get hte HTTp request & response time of Web servers from my organization

    Customers are asking alot of this ,and its hard to keep getting it manually each day to get the monthly avearge

    i checked http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/operationsmanagerreporting/thread/075293aa-0e6d-448c-8444-bc46787d7fb2

    but unfortunately iam unable to see the  Performance object as "Web request" and Counter as "Web Request Total Response Time"

     

    Appreciate any kind of help

    THanks in Advanced

     

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    Tuesday, March 8, 2011 12:01 PM

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    Please check if the following article will help on it:

    scom web application monitoring – making it useful:

    http://jayntguru.com/wordpress/archives/299

     

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    Wednesday, March 9, 2011 6:55 AM
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    Hello Hussein,

    I am glad to hear that yowere able to create your web application monitor.

    Regarding your question of whether the 5 second threshold you have set is too little or too much depends on what the business is willing to tolerate.  Or, if the business doesn't care ask the system support team that will end-up responding to any alerts for slow response time events what they believe is a reasonable amount of time before they need to be bothered by a message on their phone.  It is a balancing act between what is too sensitive and therefore to prone to alerting what is too loose as to be useless for providing pro-active resolution of issues.  I would be interested in reading the article that Vivian referred to to see what insights it contains.

    You don't mention if you are still having issues locating the performance objects for reporting that you mentioned in your initial post.

    As far as the Performance object as "Web request" and Counter as "Web Request Total Response Time" not being visible have you ticked the various Performance Counter options contained either the Properties or Configuration link in the Web Application configuration editor window?  Each of these links has tabs that allow you to enable Performance collecting on various stats with one bunch relating to web requests and the other relating more to the Total Web Application.  If none of these are ticked, try selecting a couple but don't go overboard as this can add a lot of work and data to your monitoring environment which if you do not absolutely know what it means is probably of little value in collecting.  I would recommend beginning with enabling just the Performance Collection check-box found under the Configuration link to begin with as that seems to respond to the Total Web Application Response Time from memory which is a relatively straightforward metric as far as evaluating overall response time and for reporting on.

    Once this is enabled and the change applied you should be able to right click the web application monitor in the generic Web Applications monitoring view and select Open > Performance and see if any counters appear in the bottom pane of the graph indicating something is being collected as part of the configuration of the web application monitor. You may need to wait some time, say a couple of polling intervals before you see anything appear in the Performance view when you right click the web application monitor as the newly enabled Performance collection tasks need to be initialized and then you need at least two sample points (polling intervals) of data in order to graph a line in the chart.

    The Performance view is the quickest way to verify that something like a Response Time counter is in fact being collected for a particular web application monitor since if you can see it there you should then be able to locate it when creating your custom web application performance report in the Reporting view.  It also helps in familiarizing you with the exact name of the objects, counters etc that are relevant to a particular web application monitor.

    Well, best of luck.

    Michael

    Wednesday, March 9, 2011 12:30 PM

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    So i did more searches

    and i was able to create a Web-application from the authoring

    i am still new with authoring, but i was able to create the warning to be trigered if the  http repsonse code=400 was more than 5 sec

     

    is this too much?? do i need to increase it? if i did some tracepacket \browse the website >> i can receive the page in less than 5 sec

     

    can anyone help me with some links or details on the WEB monitoring & response time??

    Appreciate  ur help

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    Tuesday, March 8, 2011 1:13 PM
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    Please check if the following article will help on it:

    scom web application monitoring – making it useful:

    http://jayntguru.com/wordpress/archives/299

     

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    Wednesday, March 9, 2011 6:55 AM
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    Hello Hussein,

    I am glad to hear that yowere able to create your web application monitor.

    Regarding your question of whether the 5 second threshold you have set is too little or too much depends on what the business is willing to tolerate.  Or, if the business doesn't care ask the system support team that will end-up responding to any alerts for slow response time events what they believe is a reasonable amount of time before they need to be bothered by a message on their phone.  It is a balancing act between what is too sensitive and therefore to prone to alerting what is too loose as to be useless for providing pro-active resolution of issues.  I would be interested in reading the article that Vivian referred to to see what insights it contains.

    You don't mention if you are still having issues locating the performance objects for reporting that you mentioned in your initial post.

    As far as the Performance object as "Web request" and Counter as "Web Request Total Response Time" not being visible have you ticked the various Performance Counter options contained either the Properties or Configuration link in the Web Application configuration editor window?  Each of these links has tabs that allow you to enable Performance collecting on various stats with one bunch relating to web requests and the other relating more to the Total Web Application.  If none of these are ticked, try selecting a couple but don't go overboard as this can add a lot of work and data to your monitoring environment which if you do not absolutely know what it means is probably of little value in collecting.  I would recommend beginning with enabling just the Performance Collection check-box found under the Configuration link to begin with as that seems to respond to the Total Web Application Response Time from memory which is a relatively straightforward metric as far as evaluating overall response time and for reporting on.

    Once this is enabled and the change applied you should be able to right click the web application monitor in the generic Web Applications monitoring view and select Open > Performance and see if any counters appear in the bottom pane of the graph indicating something is being collected as part of the configuration of the web application monitor. You may need to wait some time, say a couple of polling intervals before you see anything appear in the Performance view when you right click the web application monitor as the newly enabled Performance collection tasks need to be initialized and then you need at least two sample points (polling intervals) of data in order to graph a line in the chart.

    The Performance view is the quickest way to verify that something like a Response Time counter is in fact being collected for a particular web application monitor since if you can see it there you should then be able to locate it when creating your custom web application performance report in the Reporting view.  It also helps in familiarizing you with the exact name of the objects, counters etc that are relevant to a particular web application monitor.

    Well, best of luck.

    Michael

    Wednesday, March 9, 2011 12:30 PM
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    Thanks Vivian for the useful link

     

    Michael ,

    Thanks ,i tried ur advice,and i only selected "the total time repsonse" its running smooth ,Also i did see the performance monitor view :) from the "Web application monitoring view", and its collecting data.

    actually the 5sec i asked for ,is kinda too much for a Simple home-page of any website  , the system is a WEB-hosting system,and customer asked for a detailed report for each of the 4 WEBService (webhostingpanel, OWA,,OCSWEB, SHAREPOINT Website) which i need to create the WEB-monitoring for them.

    is 5 sec too much for outlook webacess? ocsweb? sharepoint?

    i beleive it should be less  than 5 ,if i use a 3rd party software like packet-tracer\wireshark ,and if i track the tcp data flow of the HTTp-request\repsonse i can see that the response is less than 1.5sec.

    I have set the following:

    warning time equal or greater than 7 sec   ( idont want the notification to be error\i want it to be warning)

    HTTP code set to equal 200

    whenever it run its giving a warning regarding criteria selected,can anyone tell me where iam doing it wrong?

    images are here:

    http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/8459/performancegraph.png

    http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/6968/webapplicationconfigs.png

    thanks in advanced

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    Friday, March 11, 2011 12:03 PM
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    Hi, As this thread has been quiet for a while, we assume that the issue has been resolved. At this time, we will mark it as "Answered". Either the previous steps should be helpful for many similar scenarios and will be marked as answer, or this post will be marked as answer in order to close the thread. Feel free to re-open the thread if you have additional information about this specific case or to open a new thread for a new case. In addition, we’d love to hear your feedback about the solution. By sharing your experience you can help other community members facing similar problems. Thanks,

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