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Downgrade di Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 - Problemi di attivazione

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In un server con windows server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Oem e il solo ruolo hyper-v attivato, ho installato una macchina virtuale Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard dal DVD di installazione fornito con la licenza oem ( non Windows Server ROK). Ma se inserisco la virtual key fornita non riesco a fare l’attivazione perché sembra non sia valida. La mia domanda è se acquisto sul sito Windows Server Fulfillment i supporti necessari e la key per fare il Downgrade devo reistallare il sistema operativo o basta solo inserire la key?.
Grazie
- Modificato infodb lunedì 27 agosto 2012 17:36
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non è proprio così: c'è la possibilità di downgradare anche da win2k8 R2 ent a win2k8 R2 sta attraverso il
Windows Server Fufillment site
come riportato qui
Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) Customers
Customers who obtained their Windows Server license from a server manufacturer or installer (OEM) have the same rights to run a prior version or lower edition of Windows Server as Volume License and Retail customers: Customers may run an instance of an earlier version of Windows Server in place of Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows Server 2008. However, the server manufacturer or installer are not obligated to supply and may not support earlier versions of the software. In addition, for some products, the OEM may not have any additional rights to supply the downgrade media.
OEM customers will need media and a product key to run a previous version. There are several options to obtain them.
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From a previous license. Customers may use media and/or a product key from a previous license in order to install, activate and run an earlier version of the product. The product key and media must match. If the product key being used has already been activated, the customer may not be able to activate over the internet. In these cases, the customer will be prompted to call the Activation Support Line and explain their circumstances to the Customer Service Representative. Once it is determined that the end user has a valid Windows Server license the Customer Service Representative will help them activate their software. For more information on Product Activation Call Centers go to http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/vol/numbers.mspx. Some OEMs have pre-activated their software. In these cases, a customer would not need to activate over the internet or via the phone.
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From an OEM. From now until March 31, 2011, some OEMs may support fulfilling Windows Server 2003 R2 downgrades (includes Windows Server 2003 Web Edition, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition for Itanium-based Systems, and Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition for Itanium-based Systems) to their customers. There are several options available. Contact your OEM to determine if it supports downgrade fulfillment. Please note that downgrade media is not a new license for Windows Server. It only enables a customer to install, activate and run an earlier version of Windows Server under a Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 license.
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OEMs may provide their existing Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 customers one copy of downgrade Windows Server 2003 R2 media only if their customer requests it.
Some OEMs have pre-activated their software. In these cases, a customer would not need a product key or to activate over the internet or via the phone.
For Windows Server 2008 R2 downgrade requests, end customers should fulfill downgrade requests through the Windows Server Downgrade Fulfillment site.
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Downgrade Media Kit. Customers who do not have media or a product key from a previous license and are unable to obtain one from their OEM, may order a downgrade media kit of Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2003 R2 from the Windows Server Fulfillment website. The downgrade media kit will contain a copy of Windows Server and a corresponding product key that the end user may run under a valid Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows Server 2008 license. The downgrade media kit is not a new license for Windows Server. The media kit is a retail version of the software and may not be supported by your server manufacturer. The customer should contact the OEM from which the server was purchased for its support policy when installing this downgrade version of the software on server hardware. To order from the Windows Server Fulfillment website, a customer will need the product key from their Windows Server 2008 license which can be found on their Certificate of Authenticity (COA). For more information on COAs, please go to www.howtotell.com. The following versions are available:
Windows Server 2008 R2 License Windows Server 2008 Windows Server 2003 R2 Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Windows Server 2008 Standard Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard Windows Server 2008 Standard Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter* Windows Server 2008 Datacenter* N/A - no Fulfillment Kit available for order Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Windows Server 2008 Standard Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition Windows Server 2008 R2 for Itanium Based Systems* Windows Server 2008 for Itanium Based Systems* N/A - no equivalent Windows Web Server 2008 R2 Windows Web Server 2008 N/A - no equivalent Note: Customers will need to supply their own media and product keys for versions earlier than Windows Server 2003 R2, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition for Itanium-based Systems, Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition for Itanium-based Systems, and Windows Server 2003 Web Edition.
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Down-edition Media Kit. Windows Server 2008 R2 customers also have to right to down-edition – please refer to the End User License Terms for details. The customer can order a down-edition media kit also through the Windows Server Fulfillment website. The down-edition media kit will contain a DVD/CD of Windows Server 2008 R2 and a product key that the end user may run under a valid Windows Server 2008 R2 license. The down-edition media kit is not a new license for Windows Server. To order from the Windows Server Fulfillment website, a customer will need the product key from their Windows Server 2008 R2 license. The following down-edition versions are available:
Windows Server 2008 R2 Purchased
Windows Server 2008 R2 Down-Edition kit available
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter*
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard*These editions are only available for OEM and VL customers.
Note: Down-edition kits are only available for Windows Server 2008 R2 customers.
ref: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/downgrade-rights.aspx
Edoardo Benussi
Microsoft MVP - Management Infrastructure
edo[at]mvps[dot]org- Proposto come risposta Edoardo BenussiMVP, Moderator martedì 28 agosto 2012 12:14
- Contrassegnato come risposta Anca Popa lunedì 3 settembre 2012 07:01
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Ciao a tutti,
scusatemi se non mi sono fatto vivo per tutto questo tempo, problemi personali, comunque voglio ringraziarvi per la vostra disponibilità e nello stesso tempo dirvi come ho risolto il problema. L'unico modo è di acquistare attraverso il sito Windows Server Fufillment site un supporto dvd con Windows server 2008 R2 standard per fare il downgrade. Infatti nel dvd di supporto e incluso una key da inserire e quindi attivare windows senza installare nuovamente il prodotto.
Naturalmente con i tempi di questo servizio cioè cieca 20 giorni.
Colgo l'occasione per fare una domanda se posso, sempre nella stessa macchina virtuale ( windows server 2008 R2 standard) ho delle cartelle condivise. Se copio in queste cartelle dei dati da un altro pc le cartelle copiate cambiano la data e ora di creazione con quella di quel momento mentre i file no. Non capisco il perchè è possibile mantenere le date originali?
Grazie.
- Contrassegnato come risposta Edoardo BenussiMVP, Moderator lunedì 10 dicembre 2012 09:58
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dove hai reperito le product keys ?
Edoardo Benussi
Microsoft MVP - Management Infrastructure
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In un server con windows server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Oem
ho installato una macchina virtuale Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard dal DVD di installazione fornito con la licenza oem
Se parliamo della stessa licenza OEM non tornano le versioni.
Saluti
Nino
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Ciao e grazie a tutti per le risposte, avete ragione forse non sono stato chiaro.
In pratica delle quattro licenze virtuali disponibili (versione Enterprise) di una pensavo di fare un downgrade. Adesso mi ritrovo con un server di produzione che non posso attivare.
Le product keys le ho prese dall’etichetta (Certificate of Authenticity) inclusa nella licenza software e applicata sullo chassis del Server.
Scusa Nino, ho scritto male, le versioni sono: windows server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Oem (acquistata e per l’installazione fisica) e windows server 2008 R2 SP1 Standard Oem (per la macchina virtuale).
L’installazione è stata fatta dal dvd di installazione incluso nella confezione e licenza software oem. Il supporto tecnico Microsoft mi dice che dovevo acquistare un altro dvd specifico e secondo loro ripetere l’installazione, ma non sono sicuri, per fare il downgrade.
Ma allora perché inserire la possibilità nel supporto originale?
Ciao e grazie.
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Scusa ma per definizione di "downgrade" si intende da una release superiore ad una inferiore, es. WS2008 >WS2003.
Nel tuo caso, se non ho capito male, vuoi passare da Enterprise a Standard quindi stessa release. Se ho interpretato correttamente devi installare la Enterprise anche sulla virtuale.
Saluti
Nino
- Contrassegnato come risposta Edoardo BenussiMVP, Moderator martedì 28 agosto 2012 12:06
- Contrassegno come risposta annullato Edoardo BenussiMVP, Moderator martedì 28 agosto 2012 12:09
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non è proprio così: c'è la possibilità di downgradare anche da win2k8 R2 ent a win2k8 R2 sta attraverso il
Windows Server Fufillment site
come riportato qui
Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) Customers
Customers who obtained their Windows Server license from a server manufacturer or installer (OEM) have the same rights to run a prior version or lower edition of Windows Server as Volume License and Retail customers: Customers may run an instance of an earlier version of Windows Server in place of Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows Server 2008. However, the server manufacturer or installer are not obligated to supply and may not support earlier versions of the software. In addition, for some products, the OEM may not have any additional rights to supply the downgrade media.
OEM customers will need media and a product key to run a previous version. There are several options to obtain them.
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From a previous license. Customers may use media and/or a product key from a previous license in order to install, activate and run an earlier version of the product. The product key and media must match. If the product key being used has already been activated, the customer may not be able to activate over the internet. In these cases, the customer will be prompted to call the Activation Support Line and explain their circumstances to the Customer Service Representative. Once it is determined that the end user has a valid Windows Server license the Customer Service Representative will help them activate their software. For more information on Product Activation Call Centers go to http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/vol/numbers.mspx. Some OEMs have pre-activated their software. In these cases, a customer would not need to activate over the internet or via the phone.
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From an OEM. From now until March 31, 2011, some OEMs may support fulfilling Windows Server 2003 R2 downgrades (includes Windows Server 2003 Web Edition, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition for Itanium-based Systems, and Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition for Itanium-based Systems) to their customers. There are several options available. Contact your OEM to determine if it supports downgrade fulfillment. Please note that downgrade media is not a new license for Windows Server. It only enables a customer to install, activate and run an earlier version of Windows Server under a Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 license.
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OEMs may provide their existing Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 customers one copy of downgrade Windows Server 2003 R2 media only if their customer requests it.
Some OEMs have pre-activated their software. In these cases, a customer would not need a product key or to activate over the internet or via the phone.
For Windows Server 2008 R2 downgrade requests, end customers should fulfill downgrade requests through the Windows Server Downgrade Fulfillment site.
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Downgrade Media Kit. Customers who do not have media or a product key from a previous license and are unable to obtain one from their OEM, may order a downgrade media kit of Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2003 R2 from the Windows Server Fulfillment website. The downgrade media kit will contain a copy of Windows Server and a corresponding product key that the end user may run under a valid Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows Server 2008 license. The downgrade media kit is not a new license for Windows Server. The media kit is a retail version of the software and may not be supported by your server manufacturer. The customer should contact the OEM from which the server was purchased for its support policy when installing this downgrade version of the software on server hardware. To order from the Windows Server Fulfillment website, a customer will need the product key from their Windows Server 2008 license which can be found on their Certificate of Authenticity (COA). For more information on COAs, please go to www.howtotell.com. The following versions are available:
Windows Server 2008 R2 License Windows Server 2008 Windows Server 2003 R2 Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Windows Server 2008 Standard Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard Windows Server 2008 Standard Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter* Windows Server 2008 Datacenter* N/A - no Fulfillment Kit available for order Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Windows Server 2008 Standard Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition Windows Server 2008 R2 for Itanium Based Systems* Windows Server 2008 for Itanium Based Systems* N/A - no equivalent Windows Web Server 2008 R2 Windows Web Server 2008 N/A - no equivalent Note: Customers will need to supply their own media and product keys for versions earlier than Windows Server 2003 R2, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition for Itanium-based Systems, Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition for Itanium-based Systems, and Windows Server 2003 Web Edition.
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Down-edition Media Kit. Windows Server 2008 R2 customers also have to right to down-edition – please refer to the End User License Terms for details. The customer can order a down-edition media kit also through the Windows Server Fulfillment website. The down-edition media kit will contain a DVD/CD of Windows Server 2008 R2 and a product key that the end user may run under a valid Windows Server 2008 R2 license. The down-edition media kit is not a new license for Windows Server. To order from the Windows Server Fulfillment website, a customer will need the product key from their Windows Server 2008 R2 license. The following down-edition versions are available:
Windows Server 2008 R2 Purchased
Windows Server 2008 R2 Down-Edition kit available
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter*
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard*These editions are only available for OEM and VL customers.
Note: Down-edition kits are only available for Windows Server 2008 R2 customers.
ref: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/downgrade-rights.aspx
Edoardo Benussi
Microsoft MVP - Management Infrastructure
edo[at]mvps[dot]org- Proposto come risposta Edoardo BenussiMVP, Moderator martedì 28 agosto 2012 12:14
- Contrassegnato come risposta Anca Popa lunedì 3 settembre 2012 07:01
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Ops, in effetti.
Windows Server 2008 R2 Purchased
Windows Server 2008 R2 Down-Edition kit available
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter*
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise
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Ciao, scusate ma non riesco ancora a capire perchè Microsoft dà la possibilità di installare il prodotto dal dvd originale se è obbligatorio acquistare il Media Kit e un codice prodotto.
Non era più logico fornire solo la versione Enterprise ? comunque oggi ordino il Media Kit e spero di inserire solo il product key. Cercavo qualcuno che con lo stesso scenario mi poteva dire la procedura corretta per la risoluzione.
In attesa saluti.
- Modificato infodb martedì 28 agosto 2012 13:06
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Ciao,
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Ciao a tutti,
scusatemi se non mi sono fatto vivo per tutto questo tempo, problemi personali, comunque voglio ringraziarvi per la vostra disponibilità e nello stesso tempo dirvi come ho risolto il problema. L'unico modo è di acquistare attraverso il sito Windows Server Fufillment site un supporto dvd con Windows server 2008 R2 standard per fare il downgrade. Infatti nel dvd di supporto e incluso una key da inserire e quindi attivare windows senza installare nuovamente il prodotto.
Naturalmente con i tempi di questo servizio cioè cieca 20 giorni.
Colgo l'occasione per fare una domanda se posso, sempre nella stessa macchina virtuale ( windows server 2008 R2 standard) ho delle cartelle condivise. Se copio in queste cartelle dei dati da un altro pc le cartelle copiate cambiano la data e ora di creazione con quella di quel momento mentre i file no. Non capisco il perchè è possibile mantenere le date originali?
Grazie.
- Contrassegnato come risposta Edoardo BenussiMVP, Moderator lunedì 10 dicembre 2012 09:58
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grazie per la conferma della procedura.
per le date delle cartelle usa robocopy come suggerito qui
Edoardo Benussi
Microsoft MVP
edo[at]mvps[dot]org