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Tracing Account Lockout Source

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Hi,
We have a Single Forest Single Domain AD on Win2008 R2 we are experiencing random account lockouts for some users and users claim that they haven't tried wrong passwords & we checked if the credentials are saved in Windows Vault.
I tried the tool from Microsoft
Account Lockout and Management Tools
but this doesn't really help to trace the account lockout source i can see the number of attempts and other details on top of that when i look for Account Lockout Events on DC i don't see any.
Please suggest if i am missing something.
What are the Event IDs i should look for to trace the Account Lockouts?
Regards,
Maqsood
Maqsood Mohammed Senior Systems Engineer MCITP-Enterprise Admin & ITILv3 Foundation Certified
Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:38 AM
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You can use Netwrix tool, which is free for 20 days & see if it helps you. You can also look think of inspecting your environvenemt for conficker worm.
https://www.netwrix.com/account_lockout_examiner.html
http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/conficker-removal-tool.aspx
Awinish Vishwakarma - MVP - Directory Services
My Blog: awinish.wordpress.com Disclaimer This posting is provided AS-IS with no warranties/guarantees and confers no rights.- Marked as answer by Maqsood Mohammed Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:19 AM
- Edited by Vinod RamakrishnaMicrosoft contingent staff Monday, October 12, 2015 9:29 AM HTTPS instead of HTTP
Monday, June 4, 2012 8:57 AM
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Are these users are using handheld devices?You need to sort out its user or computer generating lockout events. You need to look for login failure event ID's in the security log of the DC's. There is a tool from the netwrix and it work lot of time for me tracing account lockout.
Netwrix has a good tool, give a try.
https://www.netwrix.com/account_lockout_troubleshooting.html
Awinish Vishwakarma - MVP - Directory Services
My Blog: awinish.wordpress.com Disclaimer This posting is provided AS-IS with no warranties/guarantees and confers no rights.- Edited by Vinod RamakrishnaMicrosoft contingent staff Monday, October 12, 2015 9:30 AM HTTPS instead of HTTP
Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:20 AM -
Hi, I use this tool in a very large environment with multiple DC's to get he lockout source. The easiest way is to take the lockout DC (Remember the PDC will always show the lockout too) and take the exact time of the last lock. Get the DC Security event log then go to the exact time the lockout occurred. You should see some of the events you need then, and in the description etc, you will see the source of the lockout......You may already know this, buthope it helps...
DCD
Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:29 AM -
Hi Awinish,
Yes the user who complained this morning is using iPhone and accessing email on Exchange through Active Sync.
What are the Event IDs i should look for?
Netwrix is the licensed software.
Is there any free tool?
Does native Event log in Win2008R2 show the source of Account Lockout and type of application trying to logon?
Regards,
Maqsood
Maqsood Mohammed Senior Systems Engineer MCITP-Enterprise Admin & ITILv3 Foundation Certified
Sunday, June 3, 2012 10:05 AM -
Hi,
I just got another user locked out and i run the tool Account Lockout Mgmt and checked the lockout time and followed the time stamp to filter the events on DC and i found "Event 4771 - Kerberos pre-authentication failed".
Why would this happen?
User said he didn't try any bad password actually he is using biometrics login so there is no question of typing in the password.
Please suggest.
Regards,
maqsood
Maqsood Mohammed Senior Systems Engineer MCITP-Enterprise Admin & ITILv3 Foundation Certified
Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:28 AM -
Hi, it would appear that the lockout tool "6 bad passwords", AND the security logs confirm that a bad password has been attempted. Now, I'm noit a kerberos expert, but if memory serves, "pre-auth" is when kerberos passes the password etc to the DC, so it would appear that everything pointsat a bad password. Can you not try a login yourslef using a standard windows machine/reset it for the user and try it yourself? How can you be absolutley sure the password hasnt been changed? Maybe you have a first-line SD that has done it? Happens ALL the time in my organisation:-)
Regards
DCD
- Proposed as answer by paulemis Friday, October 17, 2014 8:00 AM
Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:14 PM -
Maqsood,
Event ID for account lockout for windows server 2008 R2 is 4740. As per my experiecne you have microsoft account lockout status tool which will yield you the information from where account is getting locked.
Account lockout are due to following reasons
- If any of the schdule task is running with user account old creadetials
- If any of the services are running with user account old credentials
- IF any of the network drive mapped with users account old credentails
- If user is using a smartphone where his old credentails are cached.
You need to follow below steps to find out the source of the account lockout
1. Download microsoft lockout status tool from below link
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15201
2. Install it on domain controller
3. Put the target name (user account which is getting locked) on target tab
4.It will list out Date/time and DC on which account lock out events are happening
5.Check the Latest date and time and DC name,. Login to the DC where the evet is getting generated.
6.Go to security event------>search for 644 (microsoft Server 203) or 4740 (W2K8 /windows server 2008 R2)----->open the event
7.It will list the account information and Computer name from which account is gettng locked
8.Login to the computer and check for any services or schduled task
Hope this information helps
Regards,
_Prashant_
MCSA|MCITP SA|Microsoft Exchange 2003 Blog - http://prashant1987.wordpress.com Disclaimer: This posting is provided AS-IS with no warranties/guarantees and confers no rights.
Monday, June 4, 2012 6:00 AM -
You can use Netwrix tool, which is free for 20 days & see if it helps you. You can also look think of inspecting your environvenemt for conficker worm.
https://www.netwrix.com/account_lockout_examiner.html
http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/conficker-removal-tool.aspx
Awinish Vishwakarma - MVP - Directory Services
My Blog: awinish.wordpress.com Disclaimer This posting is provided AS-IS with no warranties/guarantees and confers no rights.- Marked as answer by Maqsood Mohammed Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:19 AM
- Edited by Vinod RamakrishnaMicrosoft contingent staff Monday, October 12, 2015 9:29 AM HTTPS instead of HTTP
Monday, June 4, 2012 8:57 AM -
If the multiple user ids are getting locked in AD this could be the sympton of Win32/Conficker worm
On th DC check the security log event id 644 will occur if the account is getting locked.Open the event and check the caller Machine.If you check the multiple 644 logs you will find the same caller machine.If this is the case unplug the caller machine from the network and do windows patching on the PC and update the virus defination and do full scan.There could be multiple PC in the environment which may be affected by Conficker virus.If it is spread on multiple PC create a GPO.Refer below MS link symptoms of Conficker virus is given and also how to deploy the policy to block the same.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/962007Also make suer that all the PC as well are server are patched and latest verus defination is present all PC.
Note:If the event id 644 has not occured then this mean that in audit policy user account management policy is not configured.Configure the same and check if the events are occuring.This scenario is for only Conficker Virus as I have faced the same issue in my network.
There may be many other causes for account locked out.
•user's account in stored user name and passwords
•user's account tied to persistent mapped drive
•user's account as a service account
•user's account used as an IIS application pool identity
•user's account tied to a scheduled task
•un-suspending a virtual machine after a user's pw as changed
•A SMARTPHONE!!!For more refer KB article:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773155(WS.10).aspx
You can also install Account Lockout and Management Tool:http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=18465
http://4sysops.com/archives/free-account-lockout-tools-view-lockout-status-and-unlock-account/Refer below link for more step on trroubleshooting account lockout.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverDS/thread/94a7399f-7e7b-4404-9509-1e9ac08690a8/
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverDS/thread/1c7e66a4-6a81-4118-89df-2e290852c3cc/Hope this helps
Best Regards,
Sandesh Dubey.
MCSE|MCSA:Messaging|MCTS|MCITP:Enterprise Adminitrator | My Blog
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees , and confers no rights.- Proposed as answer by Arthur_LiMicrosoft contingent staff Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:10 AM
Monday, June 4, 2012 11:34 AM -
Have you checked on this computer (FPG.Gloabl) if the user has:
A scheduled task which use his password?
A service which uses his password?
A mapped drive which uses his password?
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2012/04/23/user-account-lockout-troubleshooting.aspx--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCITP: Enterprise Administrator
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, Vista, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
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Monday, June 4, 2012 12:03 PM -
Hi Guys,
Thanks everyone for valuable suggestions.
I am off for a week i shall update you the status on Monday.
Regards,
Maqsood
Maqsood Mohammed Senior Systems Engineer MCITP-Enterprise Admin & ITILv3 Foundation Certified
Monday, June 4, 2012 2:41 PM -
Hello Everyone,
I am not seeing any account lockouts from a week now.
I believe it is happening only when user changes the password and they are having some king of network map or application which is storing their credentials other wise i don't see any issues with AD.
Regards,
Maqsood
Maqsood Mohammed Senior Systems Engineer MCITP-Enterprise Admin & ITILv3 Foundation Certified
Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:18 AM