RemoteFX without Hyper-V

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  Hi,
  
  First of all, can anyone confirm whether the ATI FirePro V7800 card is officially on the supported RemoteFx video card list?
  From AMD official site,the ATI FirePro V7800 is supported for Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 and RemoteFX. Referenced Link:http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/software/Pages/remote-fx.aspx
  
  Secondly, is it possible to get any benefits out of RemoteFX when using RDP to the physical host in which the video card is installed? If not, will the RDP user see any advantage -in any way- of the video card when RDPing to the physical host? If not, does it mean that the only way to take advantage of the video card on the physical server is by having user RDP to a hyper-v VM on that server?
  First,Remote fx is based on the RDP to allows users work remotely in a Windows Aero desktop environment, watch full-motion video, enjoy Silverlight animations and run 3D applications – all with the fidelity of a local-like performance when connecting over the LAN.With RemoteFX, these users will be able to access their workspace via a standard RDP connection from a broad range of client devices – rich PCs, thin clients and very simple, low-cost devices.
  
  In short,Without RDP,remote fx is meaningless.If you use RDP to the VM or RDS server to get the 3d effect,then remote FX is a must whether you have a installed video card or not.
  About the details about the remotefx,pls refer to :http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff817578(WS.10).aspx

  Deploying Microsoft RemoteFX on a Single Remote Desktop Virtualization Host Server Step-by-Step Guide:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff817586(WS.10).aspx

  Hardware Considerations for RemoteFX:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff817602(WS.10).aspx

  In addition,RemoteFX without Hyper-V is only available thru the RDSH which don't need to use the Hyper v role.Deploying Microsoft RemoteFX on a Remote Desktop Session Host Server Step-by-Step Guide:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff817595(v=ws.10)
  
  

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  Clarence

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  • Edited by Clarence Zhang Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:05 AM

  Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:23 AM
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  Clarence,

  Thanks for your response. I understand that its meaningless without RDP. My question is, can i utilize RemoteFX (for that rich desktop experience/smooth graphics) without involving virtualization? RemoteFX is part of RDVH and installs together with the core service, does that mean that the technology will only be utilized in the virtualization world? What if i were to install RemoteFX and then open an RDP session to the physical host?

  "If you use RDP to the VM or RDS server to get the 3d effect,then remote FX is a must whether you have a installed video card or not."
  But wouldn't i defeat the whole purpose if i didnt have a decent GPU (such as the ATI V7800) on the server?

  Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:37 AM
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  Hi,
  
  can i utilize RemoteFX (for that rich desktop experience/smooth graphics) without involving virtualization?
  
  The answer is no.In Windows Server 2008 R2, the RemoteFX Codec could be leveraged for both session hosting (Remote Desktop Session Hosts) and VDI scenarios (and Remote Desktop Virtualization Hosts). BUT, The RemoteFX vGPU and RemoteFX USB Redirection features could only be used in VDI scenarios (Remote Desktop Virtualization Hosts). That is, without the GPU (such as the ATI V7800),you'll never utilize rich desktop experience/smooth graphics and usb redirection which is based on a physical GPU.
  
  RemoteFX is part of RDVH and installs together with the core service, does that mean that the technology will only be utilized in the virtualization world? What if i were to install RemoteFX and then open an RDP session to the physical host?

  Remotefx is not only included with providing rich desktop experience/smooth graphics and usb redirection functionality ,it also provide the high fidelity and scalability,and ensures lower bandwidth than Windows Server® 2008 R2 when transferring rich graphics applications in the RDS enviroment.A GPU is not required when using RemoteFX for Remote Desktop Session Host environment.Again,remotefx can be utilized without VDI.The difference is that,to provide the rich desktop experience/smooth graphics,you need to depend on a  physical GPU.Deploying Microsoft RemoteFX on a Remote Desktop Session Host Server Step-by-Step Guide:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff817595(v=ws.10)

  What if i were to install RemoteFX and then open an RDP session to the physical host?

  No effect.To achieve the RemoteFX (esp. for that rich desktop experience/smooth graphics),you need to deploy virtualization host role and remotefx role,and satisfy the Hardware Considerations for RemoteFX:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff817591(v=ws.10)

  "If you use RDP to the VM or RDS server to get the 3d effect,then remote FX is a must whether you have a installed video card or not."
  But wouldn't i defeat the whole purpose if i didnt have a decent GPU (such as the ATI V7800) on the server?

  I said above,to enable the remote fx in the rds enviroment, video card can be optional.
  In server 2012,even if in the vdi enviroment, video card can also be optional.All features of RemoteFX (with the exception of the vGPU) can be used with or without a physical GPU present in the server. When no GPU is present in the server, a synthetic software-emulated GPU is used to render content. When a GPU is present in the server, it an be used to hardware accelerate the graphics via the RemoteFX vGPU feature.
  

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  • Edited by Clarence Zhang Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:03 AM
  • Marked as answer by JoeNYC Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:31 PM

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  Thank you Clarence, this information is very helpful!

  One last question, if i were to utilize VDI, does the VM need to be Windows 7 or can it be a 2008R2 RDSH VM (which would in effect allow multiple RDP sessions to take advantage of vGPU, yet without having a dedicated VM per connection)?

  Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:39 PM
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  Thank you Clarence, this information is very helpful!

  One last question, if i were to utilize VDI, does the VM need to be Windows 7 or can it be a 2008R2 RDSH VM (which would in effect allow multiple RDP sessions to take advantage of vGPU, yet without having a dedicated VM per connection)?

  
  To get a better enjoyment, the VM should be win7.But,windows xp is also acceptable.And, you need to know VM guest os in the vdi enviroment is based on the client OS. Other server OS is not official supported. And certainly will not allow multiple RDP sessions to take advantage of vGPU.You will fail to add the 2008R2 RDSH VM to the virtual desktop pools or the personal virtual desktops.
  
  

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  Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:50 AM