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ACS SCOM 2012

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  • Dears,

    I have SCOM 2012 RC and SQL and reporting on the same server, it's only one MS. I need to install ACS and i have some questions.

    * can it be on the same server ?

    * if i want to deploy it on different server should i install another MS on that server before installing ACS

    Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:31 AM

Answers

  • Hi,

    1# Yes the ACS database can be located on the same computer as the ACS collector, but for best performance, each should be installed on a dedicated server.

    2# There is no need to another MS for ACS.


    Bechir Gharbi | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/bgharbi/ | Time zone : GMT+1

    • Marked as answer by MedhatRizk Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:32 AM
    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:03 AM
  • It is not an obligation it's just a recommandation and also it depends on your infra/number of machins to audit/DB size/... You can always implement ACS on your MS server and many people do this without any issue (except some performance/disc space troubles if their servers are poor of course).

    Bechir Gharbi | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/bgharbi/ | Time zone : GMT+1


    • Edited by Bechir GharbiMVP Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:23 AM
    • Marked as answer by MedhatRizk Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:32 AM
    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:21 AM
  • * You can use the SQL of the first server to host the ACS DB, but (based on the load) if you will install a new server for ACS Collector I prefer using it for ACS DB as well.

    So split the roles is better for perfromance, but again (based on your enviroment size)..

    1. one server ( MS, MS DB , Reporting , DW DB )

    2.second server ( MS, SQL, ACS DB, ACS collector)

    Hope this helps!

    Regards,

    Mazen

    • Marked as answer by MedhatRizk Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:51 AM
    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:51 AM

All replies

  • Hi,

    1# Yes the ACS database can be located on the same computer as the ACS collector, but for best performance, each should be installed on a dedicated server.

    2# There is no need to another MS for ACS.


    Bechir Gharbi | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/bgharbi/ | Time zone : GMT+1

    • Marked as answer by MedhatRizk Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:32 AM
    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:03 AM
  • So as per your answer the best solution for my case is to have another server for ACS collector and put the ACS database on the same server with MS ans MS database and Reporting ( the only server i have) ?

    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:07 AM
  • It is not an obligation it's just a recommandation and also it depends on your infra/number of machins to audit/DB size/... You can always implement ACS on your MS server and many people do this without any issue (except some performance/disc space troubles if their servers are poor of course).

    Bechir Gharbi | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/bgharbi/ | Time zone : GMT+1


    • Edited by Bechir GharbiMVP Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:23 AM
    • Marked as answer by MedhatRizk Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:32 AM
    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:21 AM
  • Hello Medhat,

    *1- All in one server scenario is OK based on sizing the environment, but not recommeded and has some restriction..

    Single-Server Deployment of Operations Manager
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh298612.aspx


    ###########

    Regarding the second question (*2) "if i want to deploy it on different server should i install another MS on that server before installing ACS",

    There are 2 scenarios:
    1- ACS Collector and ACS Database on the new server, then it has to be Operations Manager management server

    2- ACS Collector on your first server and the new server for the ACS Database, then the new server will be only a SQL Server, no need for management server.


    Details: Collecting Security Events Using Audit Collection Services in Operations Manager:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh212908.aspx


    Hope this helps!

    Regards,
    Mazen



    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:35 AM
  • so mazen the second scenario
    i cannot use the database of scom and install ACS collector on new server wothout installing MS.

    so if I don't want to install it on the same server beacuse it has performance problem.

    I have now 2 scenarios

    1. one server ( MS, MS DV, Reporting , DW DB) and install on it ACS collector

    2. second server is for ACS DB ( sql installed only)

    or 

    1. one server ( MS, MS DB , Reporting , DW DB ) 

    2.second server ( MS, SQL, ACS DB, ACS collector)

    is that right and which scenario is prefered.

    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:44 AM
  • * You can use the SQL of the first server to host the ACS DB, but (based on the load) if you will install a new server for ACS Collector I prefer using it for ACS DB as well.

    So split the roles is better for perfromance, but again (based on your enviroment size)..

    1. one server ( MS, MS DB , Reporting , DW DB )

    2.second server ( MS, SQL, ACS DB, ACS collector)

    Hope this helps!

    Regards,

    Mazen

    • Marked as answer by MedhatRizk Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:51 AM
    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:51 AM
  • * You can use the SQL of the first server to host the ACS DB, but (based on the load) if you will install a new server for ACS Collector I prefer using it for ACS DB as well.

    So split the roles is better for perfromance, but again (based on your enviroment size)..

    1. one server ( MS, MS DB , Reporting , DW DB )

    2.second server ( MS, SQL, ACS DB, ACS collector)


    Agree with Mazen.

    Bechir Gharbi | http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/bgharbi/ | Time zone : GMT+1

    Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:53 AM
  • Hi, often you implement ACS becurse your organization requires it, for example the business you do req auditing by law. Then there might be rules also saying the auditing environment should be keept isolated and "away" from the normal IT department and with a very limitied group of people can access the ACS reports. That could be another reason for having multiple management servers when working with ACS.

    Anders Bengtsson | Microsoft PFE | blog at http://www.contoso.se

    Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:48 PM
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