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Windows 7 RC Backup fails - Errorcode 0x81000019 RRS feed

  • Question

  • I think that the problem startet when i installed windows7;
    the setup asked for a second partition for the bootmanager and so on..
    i decidet to confirm, because setup offered it...

    From the beginning, this partition had the flag "hidden".

    Now - when i try to run backup - i get  the warning "A shadow copy could not be created.
    Please check 'VSS' and 'SPP' application event logs for more information. ..."
    with the errorcode 0x81000019.

    So i've checked the event log...
    "System partition (partition marked "active") is hidden or contains an unrecognized file system.
    Backup does not support this configuration."

    This message remindet me that the setup asked for a second partition (marked as hidden)..
    I guess that this is the problem...
    But i don't have the faintest idea to fix the problem - no useful idea, without installing windows 7 for a
    second time...

    I would be grateful for any help
    Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:31 PM

All replies

  • If you perform a clean install of Windows 7 you end up with a 100MB partition for the system partition. This is where you can find ntldr and various other startup files. In Windows 7 this has been made a hidden partition.

    What backup utility are you using?


    Daniel Nerenberg MCT MCSE MCITP MCTS MVP
    Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:56 PM
    Moderator
  • I've used the windows utility for backup.
    But after that, i also tried norton ghost 14 - with the result that it stopped at 5% - after 2 hours i've canceled...

    Monday, July 27, 2009 4:22 PM
  • Please, i would be very grateful for any help....
    Tuesday, August 4, 2009 6:37 PM
  • I don't know if this has had any resolution, but I would love to find out if you've resolved this issue geocon.  I am running into the same situation (2 partition, 1 hidden (NTDR) & 1 active system files (C:)) As a result I cannot figure out how to get this back-up working.  If anyone else has any suggestion, it would be great.
    Friday, September 4, 2009 4:44 AM
  • Tried to back up W7 partition using Acronis True Image 10, as was getting frequent "file system corrupted" errors. Backup to external usb disk was successuful but on trying to restore to a new partition I got "disk unreadable" error.

    Strange that "file system corrupted" errors mainly occur when trying to paste data from C to D drive.  Doing program installations all is well. So far W7 has run anything thrown at it except Acronis TI10.  Very impressed. Can't wait to get Family pack on 22nd Oct. Means I will never have to go anywhere near Vista...........

    Any ideas on cause of errors?

    thanks

    Egbot

    AMD dual core 3.0 gb
    2gb ram
    XP Prof SP3 on C drive - SATA
    W7 dual boot on D drive (separate hd - IDE)
    Backup drive usb2 external (Seagate)
    Friday, September 4, 2009 1:15 PM
  • It seems that the software i've used (Norton Ghost14.0 and the backup-utility of windows7) trying to make
    a backup  - can't handle with the hidden system-partition.
    But now, after updating Norton Ghost 14.0, Ghost is able to run and finish backup without an error.

    It seems that Symantec fixed the problem, that their software aborts when the first partition is hidden.
    Even though this is a solution, not the whole problem is solved - the windows7 backup-function still aborts.

    I hope that this will be fixed till Oct. when i buy windows7 in store. But next time - this means October - when i
    install windows7 again, i won't choose that setup shall create this hidden partition.

    Even though, i would be grateful for further informations. So that i'am able to fix this problem on my own - if
    it's possible without chanching software ;-)
    Monday, September 21, 2009 10:01 PM
  • Hello all,

    I've got the same problem, but managed to backup by de-selecting the create driver image checkbox available when you choose the contents of the backup.
    Buggy, but managed to backup my personal files... 

    Peace,
    Paulo
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:06 PM
  • Help! I'm having the same problem; it definitely started when I installed Windows 7 last week. Paulo, I can't find a checkbox indicating an option to "create driver image" to de-select. Any assistance would be SO appreciated!

    Thanks!
    • Proposed as answer by xXx1487 Tuesday, April 2, 2013 7:39 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by xXx1487 Tuesday, April 2, 2013 7:39 PM
    Monday, November 2, 2009 2:34 AM
  • Hi,

    Usually this error come when 100 MB hidden System Reserved partition created by Windows 7 does not have enough space to store a shadow copy. Please check the freespace on this volume. Follow the following steps:

    1. Start -> Computer -> Right click -> Manage
    2. Select Storage -> Disk management.
    3. Verify that you have a System Reserved partition of 100 MB size.
    4. If yes, right click on this volume and select Properties.
    5. View used and free space.

    Windows backup requires around 40 MB of free space on this partition to backup successfully. So if the free space is less than 40 GB, backup does not get enough free space. As a workaround try the following solution:

    Since the default System reserved partition cannot be extended, creating a new system volume is the workaround. Here are the steps to move the system volume to any other volume:


    1. Choose where you want to have your system volume. Few things you need to keep in mind:
      a. System volume can only be created on a primary partition of MBR disk.
      b. If system volume & boot volume are together, then BitLocker feature cannot be used to encrypt volumes on your machine.

    2. Suggest creating a new volume (say F:) on the same disk that contains the boot partition of size of about 490 MB (be careful to keep it less than 500 MB).

    3. Assuming Windows 7 is installed on C: on your machine. From an elevated command-prompt run: bcdboot.exe /s C:\Windows /s F:.

    4. From elevated command-prompt run: DISKPART

    5. From the disk part command-prompt:
    DISKPART> select volume F
    DISKPART> active

     

    Now you can reboot your machine and F: will become the system volume. You can undo this by repeating the same steps using the original system volume (you have to assign drive-letter to it) to revert to your previous configuration.

    Hope this helps, if this does not work please let me know.


    @ Teacher, not a tech person
    Though above solution should solve your problem, you can follow the steps mentioned below to exclude System image from your backup.
    1. Go to Change Settings option on Backup and Restore control panel.
    2. Select Let me choose option.
    3. Check/uncheck the checkbox "Create a system image" located at the bottom of this page to include/exclude the system image.

    Thanks,
    Neha
    [MSFT]

    • Proposed as answer by sharifm Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:26 PM
    Wednesday, November 4, 2009 10:36 AM
  • I did an "in place" upgrade, I have no Hidden partition, yet I have the same problem with the same message. I am backing up with Retrospect currently. I think this effectivley says that the hidden partition is only perhaps a part of the problem.
    • Proposed as answer by jimg43 Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:14 PM
    Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:29 AM
  • Maybe this has been reported before and I missed it, but it worked for two of my windows 7 ultimate computers, a Dell XPS and a Toshiba Satellite, both with Windows 7 upgrades, one with Intel's core 2 duo and the other an Intel 3.4 GHz "desktop" processor (even though it's on a laptop).  I  followed this sequence: 

    1. Control Panel\System and Security\System
    2. Under protection settings, I pressed Configure
    3. I noted that no space was allocated for System protection on the main system volume.
    4. A volume marked "Toshiba Volume" had the protection column "off".
    5. I allocated a couple of GBytes for system protection and turned the Toshiba Volume on.
    6. I was then able to create both a system image and a backup of all of my files with no errors.

    A similar procedure also worked for my Dell.

    It appears that during my upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate, the System Protection and "shadow files" were turned off by default.

    Hope this helps someone else as well. 

    Jimg43

    • Proposed as answer by jimg43 Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:04 PM
    Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:27 PM
  • I think that the problem startet when i installed windows7;
    the setup asked for a second partition for the bootmanager and so on..
    i decidet to confirm, because setup offered it...

    From the beginning, this partition had the flag "hidden".

    Now - when i try to run backup - i get  the warning "A shadow copy could not be created.
    Please check 'VSS' and 'SPP' application event logs for more information. ..."
    with the errorcode 0x81000019.

    So i've checked the event log...
    "System partition (partition marked "active") is hidden or contains an unrecognized file system.
    Backup does not support this configuration."

    This message remindet me that the setup asked for a second partition (marked as hidden)..
    I guess that this is the problem...
    But i don't have the faintest idea to fix the problem - no useful idea, without installing windows 7 for a
    second time...

    I would be grateful for any help

    Geocon (and all who are following this thread), I had the exact same error and I posted about it below. I have, in a very roundabout way, solved the problem on my machine, to whit;

    During my investigation of my problem, I found that the allocated space for shadow copies and restore points was within 10% of being full. I was unable to find a way through disk cleanup to delete all but the latest so I deleted all of them. The law of unintended consequences kicked in at that point and I was unable to create a new restore point, which gave me a new error code 0x80042306. I googled that, and found a thread that stated among other things that this problem has been known to occur when 3rd party imaging programs make VSS go wonky. Now, I have 3 different imaging programs installed. The coin toss was heads for Seagate Manager. After deletion of that program my ability to make restore points and do a full backup with windows backup was working like a charm. I'm assuming that is was simply an incompatibility problem with Seagate Manager, but I also assume that this could happen with other 3rd party software.

    Dave
    Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:36 AM
  • Jimg43, see my post above, a reply to the original post by Geocon. It relates how I solved the problem on my machine.

    Dave
    • Proposed as answer by gatorali Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:47 PM
    Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:39 AM
  • A shadow copy could not be created. Please check "VSS" and "SPP" application event logs for more information. The specified object was not found. Error code: 0x81000019 !!! This is a much quicker way that worked for me.  I just right clicked on the 100MB drive in manage my drive view and selected properties..  I checked compress all files and folder on the 100MB and I had to skip 1 or 2 but it went from 30MB to 60MB free space.. Then for the first time it did a full backup....WOW!!!
    • Proposed as answer by Neha.Agrawal Monday, December 21, 2009 8:34 AM
    Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:57 PM
  • I was able to get windows 7 backup to finally work by doing the following:

    The error message which I was receiving after windows 7 backup failed was:

    A shadow copy could not be created. Please check "VSS" and "SPP" application event logs for more information. The specified object was not found. Error code: 0x81000019


    My hard drive has a C and D partition. I am not sure if it was step 1, 2 or 3 below or a combination of all 3 steps that fixed my problem. I would start with step 1 then try to run backup. If that does not work procede to step 2 and try running backup again. If that still does not work go to step 3.  I excecuted all 3 steps prior to attemting my backup so I am not sure which one of the steps actually fixed the problem or if it was a combination of all 3 steps. All these steps together is now allowing me to backup via the windows 7 backup feature. Hopefully the solution will hold up long term.

    Step 1:

    I ran diskclean on the C and D drive partitions

    Step 2:

    Right click on computer
    Properties
    System Protection
    Highlight D drive
    Click Configure
    Click delete all restore points

    Step 3:

    Right click on computer
    Properties
    System Protection
    Highlight C drive
    Click Configure
    Click delete all restore points







    • Proposed as answer by R.Spitz Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:58 AM
    Friday, November 13, 2009 5:47 PM
  • I got a different error message but after many weeks of trial and error amd slowly starting to get my machine to backup.

    One thing that seems to work is running diskclean - which seems to be needed before each backup.

    As you cannot run whilst sleep/hibernate i have to do this manual also.

    Painful!

    At 16% - fingers crossed it finish - by tomorrow maybe . . .:-)
    Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:22 PM
  • Hi
    Try to mark the SystemReserved partition as active
    Open System Control
    System and security
    Build new partition
    Right mouse click on the SystemReserved partition
    Mark as active partition

    In my case it worked great!
    I´ve got Linux running as second os on my laptop, maybe that´s the problem.
    I hope it´ll help.

    (I´m sorry for my English, unfortunately my Windows is German, so I can´t tell you the definitions exactly)

    Greetings missionpossible
    Saturday, January 16, 2010 6:08 PM
  • Thank you, this fixed my issue.

    This has only occurred on my PCs with Win7 Ultra 64bit & Norton Ghost v15.0.
    It has not occurred on the PCs with Win 7 32 bit and no Ghost.

    Possible typo:
               3. Only one /s in bcdboot C:\Windows /s F:

    Also a reminder that the drive letter assignment is temporary and can be removed after a successful test.
    Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:47 PM
  • A Workaround Without Repartitioning:

    When trying to make a system image of Windows 7, I got error 0x80780119.  After searching this thread (plus others), I found my 100 MB System Reserved partition had grown a large USN journal.  I assigned it drive letter F:\.

    Fsutil usn queryjournal F:

    Then I ran this command to clear and disable the USN journal on my System Reserved partition:

    fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D F:

    This freed 48 MB.  The USN journal on my System Reserved partition remained disabled after a reboot, which I verified by re-running the query.  Subsequently, I was able to make a system image without error.

    Look here for details on FSUtil: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc788042(WS.10).aspx

    Mancer, MCITP-EA
    • Proposed as answer by Neha.Agrawal Tuesday, March 9, 2010 9:37 AM
    Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:26 AM
  • Hi, I appreciate everybody's effort trying to resolve this problem. It seems to me that there is no one clear solution. I have the same problem. I tried all ideas from this forum but still can't get it working. I am using external 1TB iOmega drive, completely empty and it simply doesn't work. This is such a basic MUST feature since they no longer supply the hard copy of Windows. Where is Microsoft with the "creator's" solution??? I am shaking, hoping I am not going to loose Windows. I have two Acer slimline comps, one 32bit and one 64bit. The 32bit is out of waranty or soon will be. If I loose Windows after one year and will not be able to create System Image, the only thing for me to do would be awarding Microsoft with buying the hard copy of Windows. Sorry, but it is a mess.

    Danny.

    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:22 AM
  • It is interesting how nobody can't even say anything about this problem. I also addressed Microsoft directly with this issue but there is nothing coming back. I just wish I could (which I am not allowed to with my two Acer slimline computers) switch back to Windows XP and I would happily abandon this another Microsoft great achivement called Windows 7. You can't even set your Windows Live Mail to open into your Inbox. It opens in the folder where you've left your e-mail, "deleted" or "sent", etc. Any other e-mail has that settings available. The XP had it. Yes, I haven't saved the initial Windows 7 when I bought the computer. That was my mistake, but that should be possible later. I even don't know whether it was possible then.
    Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:23 AM
  • I am following up with "Looking for genuine advise" offline. From his initial post this issue looks different from what is addressed in this thread. I will suggest you to start a new thread on http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsbackup/threads for better traction and attention to this issue.

     

     

    Thanks,

    Neha

    Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:41 AM
  • Thank you very much.

    Although I am not sure what  miss with a system image: I now have a back up.

    CU

    Theo

    Friday, May 7, 2010 12:57 PM
  • I have the same problem here! Even the "usn deletejournal" did not help. I assume that the reason for all this trouble is that I have Linux installed in a 2nd partition. And perhaps that I do not have that 100 MB partition, I have everything in C:.
    Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:43 AM
  • I have had (note HAD) the same problem with windows7 64bit backup. The partition that has system reserved on I increased the size of that to 2gb instead of the 100mb and it works no problem. Tried it and deleted the back up copy twice each time I have ran the back up it completes it fully. Hope that information helps you. :-)
    • Proposed as answer by JohnBoy710 Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:08 PM
    Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:08 PM
  • I have also had the same problem, Win 7 Home Premium (x64) did system image backups with no problems for about 6 months, then failed with the 0x81000019 error.When I investigated I found that free space in the system reserved partition was only 38 Mb. I wasn't able to increase the size of the partition so I assigned a drive letter, checked the size of the usn journal and found that it had ballooned to 32 Mb. I deleted it using the fsutil deletejournal /d <volume letter> command, free space in the partition immediately increased to 70 Mb,and Windows is now back to doing normal system image backups. I know that this solution doesn't work for everybody and I tend to agree with those who have said that Microsoft should come up with an update that resolves the underlying problem or at least makes it easier to deal with.
    Monday, June 28, 2010 12:59 AM
  • Thanks Neha - the above instructions worked :) and I've finally managed to Create System Image (on 3 DVD's).

    The original 100Mb reserved used 62Mb. Drive properties state the new active boot partition (~490Mb) has already used about 78.5Mb. And all I've done is the image. So maybe Microsoft should have made the 100MB larger?...and so it must be something else chewing up space?
    MS should've produced a solid solution fix by now!?

    Questions -if I may :)

    1) Now with this new 3 partitions mess, can you foresee any issues? Do you think it's now safe to delete the old 100Mb primary partition and extend the volume C:? I noticed that the new Reserved boot drive doesn't have bootsect.bak file (if that's an issue?). That way, it will go back to 2 partitions like how Windows 7 created in the initial installation but with a bigger partition.
    BTW, I named the new partition "System Reserved" and removed its Drive Letter.

    2) What determins the file size of the shadow copy?

    Sorry for the lengthy info but I will extremely appreciate any advice :) Thanks again.

    PS: The FSUTIL process that is mentioned here'n'there in forums to clear the USN Journal etc did not help at all.

    • Edited by Calminator Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:18 AM grammar
    Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:11 AM
  • Thanks Neha - the above instructions worked :) and I've finally managed to Create System Image (on 3 DVD's).

    The original 100Mb reserved used 62Mb. Drive properties state the new active boot partition (~490Mb) has already used about 78.5Mb. And all I've done is the image. So maybe Microsoft should have made the 100MB larger?...and so it must be something else chewing up space?
    MS should've produced a solid solution fix by now!?

    Questions -if I may :)

    1) Now with this new 3 partitions mess, can you foresee any issues? Do you think it's now safe to delete the old 100Mb primary partition and extend the volume C:? I noticed that the new Reserved boot drive doesn't have bootsect.bak file (if that's an issue?). That way, it will go back to 2 partitions like how Windows 7 created in the initial installation but with a bigger partition.
    BTW, I named the new partition "System Reserved" and removed its Drive Letter.

    2) What determins the file size of the shadow copy?

    Sorry for the lengthy info but I will extremely appreciate any advice :) Thanks again.

    PS: The FSUTIL process that is mentioned here'n'there in forums to clear the USN Journal etc did not help at all.


    I did the fsutil thing and it worked - but only once. The Sytem Reserved partition now returns to 62Mb instantly when I attempt to do a backup. When will Microsoft come up with a fix for this problem??
    Friday, August 20, 2010 1:38 PM
  • Worked great - thanks for the advice!  I did have a bit of trouble when I tried typing the exact command "bcdboot.exe /s C:\Windows /s F:"

    However, when the command failed it gave a list of sample commands which I was able to copy/paste (just changed drive letter).

    Thanks! 

    Thursday, November 4, 2010 4:35 AM
  • I found another topic dealing with this error.  They suggested uninstalling most of the optional display language files in the control panel.

     

    After I did this I found that I could back up and create system images perfectly using Window's default backup.

    Wednesday, March 9, 2011 2:21 AM
  • Saturday, April 2, 2011 11:11 AM
  • There is another good option.

    Change the Volume Shadow copy storage area to another partition. Details are mentioned here:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsbackup/thread/48d36fd2-79d4-4aaa-8f26-5cb9270decec/

     

    You basically have to move the Shadow copy storage of System Reserved partition to any other partition that has enough space. When the backup will be triggerred then the shadow copy of system volume will be created on another partition and backup will succeed.

     

    for repair this problem following this instruction :

    type "diskmgmt.msc" in run or open Disk managment

    1- right click on system reserved partition and click properties

    2- go to shadow copies tab and then click setting

    3- change " located on this volume" to another partition

    Regards,

    Vikas Ranjan

    Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:23 PM
  •  

    Hi, Vikas !

    I'm having the same problem with my Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit  (see Error Codes 0x80780119 and 0x81000019...) : the

    "Windows Back-up" and "System Image Back-up" don't work !!

    But... I'm not able to find the 'Shadowcopy Tab' options in my "Computer Management" utility, I mean after right-clicked 'property' on system-reserved partition.... (as in Your above proposed solution).

    (sigh)

    Can anyone help me, please (if You can) ???   I'm wondering all of this in many threads about Windows 7, and this Yours solution was to seem to be the best !!!

    Many Thanks a lot in advance,

    Alfredo from Italy

     

    • Proposed as answer by Darr Max Wednesday, May 4, 2011 3:13 AM
    • Unproposed as answer by Darr Max Wednesday, May 4, 2011 3:13 AM
    Sunday, May 1, 2011 6:27 PM
  • I had a problem with backup's as well, due to the system reserve partiton being only 100mb. U need at least 40mb of free space to create backup's. check ur system reserve patiton

    and see how much free space u have. I've seen a few work around's posted on this site. The one that i used was a free partiton program "EASEUS PARTITON MASTER" to increase

    the size of the system partiton to 350mb. microsoft suggest keeping the partiton less than 400mb. This worked for me, hope it helps other's as well.

    Wednesday, May 4, 2011 3:37 AM
  • my system reserved has 61mb of free space and the hard drive has 1Tb. this is really annoying because i want to switch my hard drives and run w7 of the new one but it wont let me unless i backup to an external device
    Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:37 PM
  • It seems that these settings are not available in Client. They are available in Server.

    Another way is to change the System Parition to a new Primary partition or to Windows Partition (C:).

    Using bcdboot.exe and Diskpart/Diskmgmt you can move the System partition. Details are covered above.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:36 PM
  • It seems that these settings are not available in Client. They are available in Server.

    Another way is to change the System Parition to a new Primary partition or to Windows Partition (C:).

    Using bcdboot.exe and Diskpart/Diskmgmt you can move the System partition. Details are covered above.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:37 PM
  • You cannot store the System Image backup to the critical drives. Usually C: & System Reserved partition are the critical drives. You can only store the backup to a non-critical drive.

    If your C: has taken up the entire space then you can shrink the C: and create another partiton of sufficient size that can hold the backup. Diskmgmt.msc ->Right Click Partition-> Shrink Volume. If this is successful, then you can create a new NTFS partition through Diskmgmt.

    Then you can take backup to the new partition on same disk.

    To restore the OS to a new drive, you need to attach the new disk in the same place where currect disk is attached. Make sure that new Disk is the first in Boot order in BIOS. Make sure that total size of new disk is > old disk size.

    Then boot from Windows Setup DVD. If you don't have setup dvd then you can create a repair DVD using recdisc.exe.

    Boot from DVD->Repair Windows-> System Image Recovery.

    If you get any error that Old System Disk is attached and you need to change the Disk Signature. run the following:

    Diskpart.exe -> Select disk # (old disk number) -> UNIQUEID DISK ID=<8digitHexNumber>

    Check help if required.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:54 PM
  • Mancer Blackshear,  thank you this worked perfectly for me on my Win7, 64-bit notebook PC.

     

    >>>fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D F:

    Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:09 PM
  • funny story, i had this same error, i tried all the above suggestions nothing worked, until i basically just kept trying it over and over, got it working on my 23rd try. all i did was keep trying to make a backup until it decided to give me one. thought that was kind of interesting. also my available space said 78mb so i knew their was room but it would not initiate until my 23rd try.
    Friday, December 2, 2011 11:39 PM
  • This worked for me.  I had only 9MB free on the System Reserved partition, but removing the journal freed more than 63MB, allowing the image creation to complete successfully.

    Thanks!

    Don R

    Friday, December 23, 2011 4:31 PM
  • Maybe this has been reported before and I missed it, but it worked for two of my windows 7 ultimate computers, a Dell XPS and a Toshiba Satellite, both with Windows 7 upgrades, one with Intel's core 2 duo and the other an Intel 3.4 GHz "desktop" processor (even though it's on a laptop).  I  followed this sequence: 

    1. Control Panel\System and Security\System
    2. Under protection settings, I pressed Configure
    3. I noted that no space was allocated for System protection on the main system volume.
    4. A volume marked "Toshiba Volume" had the protection column "off".
    5. I allocated a couple of GBytes for system protection and turned the Toshiba Volume on.
    6. I was then able to create both a system image and a backup of all of my files with no errors.

    A similar procedure also worked for my Dell.

    It appears that during my upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate, the System Protection and "shadow files" were turned off by default.

    Hope this helps someone else as well. 

    Jimg43


    Should have thought to try this... instantly fixed my backup error problems.
    Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:01 AM
  • I recently had this exact problem, Win 7 x64 clean install on a new drive. Since it was a new drive, Win 7 automatically created a 100MB System Reserved partition at the front of the drive (which means you can't easily make this partition any bigger because it abutts the beginning of the C: partition), and made this the boot partition. When I attempted to make a system image, I got an error message saying there wasn't enough space on one of the drives (either the target, or one of the drives/volumes being imaged, the error message could not tell me which). I pretty quickly figured out the only drive/volume that could possibly be short on space was this System Reserved partition. There was about 34MB of free space on that partition, less than the 40-50MB that the shadow service requires. Neha's solution here was the only one I found online that made sense and sounded reasonably safe. I did not like the idea suggested elsewhere of using other partitioning software to move the contents of the system reserved and/or C: partition around, to either eliminate the system reserved partition or enlarge it. That just sounded like a recipe for trouble. Neha's solution sounded like the way to go. And since I would never use BiLocker on this particular machine, making the C: partition the boot partition was the answer for me. HOWEVER, whatever partition you elect to make the boot partition, there is an error in Neha's instructions here. You do not use the first /s shown in Neha's command prompt suggestion   "bcdboot.exe /s C:\Windows /s F:"  The proper syntax is   bcdboot.exe C:\Windows /s X:   (where C is the drive letter of the partition where the intended version of Windows resides, and X is the drive letter of the partition you want to become the boot partition). This tells bcdboot to install (save) the boot files  for the Windows version on the C: partition to X: (In Neha's example F: or in my case C:) Also, while you can use the command prompt to change the active partition, this can also be done from the DiskManager console, which for many will be a more comfortable way to handle this. Having used this solution I was able to make my C: partition my boot partition and therefore eliminate the system reserved partition (at least from the sytem image process). This allows me to make a system image, but the 100MB can not be integrated into the C: partition and has to be used as a stand alone partition, because it abuts the beginning of the C: partition. So I am stuck with a 100MB partition I do not want. Bottom line, if you do a clean install of Win 7 on a new drive without existing partitions, or if you use the Win 7 install to delete and recreate a new partition, Win 7 will force you to accept a System Reserved partition at the front of that drive, and will set that partition up as the boot partition. You can't avoid this unless you use Vista or XP to pre partition/format your drive, and install Win 7 into that existing partition. Once created, you can not reclaim that space or increase the system partition size (with built in MS software) because it butts up to the beginning of the C: partition and MS's partition resizing process will not alter the used portions of a partition (at the beginning of the partition), only the unused portions at the end of a partition.  I think the way Win 7 insists on doing this without giving you an opt out or alternative configuration option, is nutty, especially given that it can and will run the free space on this partition below the minimum needed by the shadow service, making backups or system images impossible.  Oh, one other thing, while it is often said that the System Reserved partition will be hidden and not assigned a drive letter, this was not my experience, on any of the 5 computers I installed Win 7 on. All of them did assign a drive letter to that partition, usually something like K:, and it was not hidden. Not sure why some get the partition hidden and others do not.
    • Edited by MarcSayer Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:20 AM rewording
    Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:13 AM
  • SImilar problem - windows backup "not enough storage is available to process this command (0x80070008)"

    When I go to

    Open System Control
    System and security
    Build new partition
    Right mouse click on the SystemReserved partition

    Firstly, nothing is called System Reserved, but one is 102MB and says Healthy (OEM Partition) but nothing else; and has diagonal lines across it instead of solid white.  It stalls as the only right click option is Help, whcih is generic and useless.  There is no other option on the right click menu, unlike all of my other partitions. Is this altogether different problem, and how on earth do I solve it?


    • Edited by Fellwalker Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:21 AM
    Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:20 AM
  • After many tries, deleted journal from 100MB partition, and many others suggestions, the problem stils. Then I noted a 40Mb ´pagefile.sys´ created by the 'automatic management' of windows on 100Mb partition (genius!).  I delete the file and voilá! The system backup worked!

    So, you must verify why your partition has less then 70% free. 

    {}Carlos

     

    Friday, August 22, 2014 10:25 PM
  • I just posted this on another MS blog.

    I have tried all that i could find until I go a solution of my own. Its been less than an hour since I completed my backup after a long struggle.

    First, before you backup make sure you have all the drivers for your computer including that of yr external HDD up-to-date. If you are not sure,

    *Right-click on [My Computer] from your Desktop or Start menu and take [Properties]

    Click on [Device Manager] from the top-left.

    You should see devices whose drivers are not up-to-date or not installed at all with an Exclamation sign. (Red or Yellow in colour)

    Use a driver scanner to identify and install the missing drivers.... I prefer Unible driverscanner or Iobit driver booster for those who can't afford the forma.

    Make sure you have your backup device plugged in while scanning for drivers.

    Once the process is completed, run your backup process.

    If it fails at any point, run a CHKDSK /R from the command prompt on both source and destination drives.

    That should be it.

    Let me know if it helps


    • Edited by Tecky911 Friday, September 5, 2014 2:16 PM
    Friday, September 5, 2014 2:15 PM
  • Great Answer, worked for me.
    Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:55 PM
  • I wanted to make a backup image of Win 7 32 bit. I got the error: "There is not enough disk space to create the volume shadow copy of the storage location (0x80780119)."

    I tried the method using fsutil usn DeleteJournal /D /N q: method described in http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/fix-the-0x80780119-error-when-creating-a-system-image-in-windows-7-and-8/ and was unsuccessful at creating the backup image. It didn't work, so I decided to try this.

    Looking good so far with one error found in syntax:

    bcdboot.exe /s C:\Windows /s F:. should be bcdboot.exe C:\Windows /s F:

    Did the DISKPART step. Now rebooting... Wish me luck...

    Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:55 AM
  • Follow up to my last comment, it worked. I made the disk image. 

    The only issue was removing that first "/s" in the bcdboot command.

    Thanks much, Mike

    Sunday, September 6, 2015 1:07 PM
  • tried the other solutions, not sure if this one will have any negative outcomes but it too worked!
    Monday, March 21, 2016 9:06 PM
  • This solved it for me, as well. I got a couple of errors that I didn't have rights to compress all files, but just did an "Ignore All" and it compressed it with the same 60mb of free space that you had. Backup's working great now.

    Windows 10

    Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:51 PM