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Windows 7 Interactive Login during dial-up

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  • Hi

    I wonder if anybody can help, I am using Win7 professional and I'm having problems getting a network connection to work properly.  I have created a connection of type: "communications cable between computers" and can successfully connect to the device. However once the device is connected I need to be able to show the terminal window to allow the user to enter a modem command of "ato" then press enter to continue. If I tick the option box in the security tab on the connection properties to "show terminal window" it doesn't show. Also I have experimented with a script to do this for me but again the connection just seems to ignore it. I should add that this used to work on XP with no problem.

    Any ideas?

    Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:31 AM

Answers

  • Hi,

     

    Did you install the latest modem driver?

     

    Also, please check if this handheld radio modem is compatible with Windows 7.

     

    Regards,

     

    Sabrina


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    • Marked as answer by Sabrina Shen Friday, September 16, 2011 2:58 AM
    Monday, September 12, 2011 8:42 AM
  • glenzil wrote:

    Wolfgang

    Thanks for your reply.

    I'll explain exactly what I do, or did via windows XP before I
    'upgraded'.

    I use the laptop as a tool for communicating with a lot of rs232
    based equipment, as well as newer equipment. In this instance I
    connect a laptop thru a dial-up connection to a handheld radio acting
    as a modem in order to transmit small data files. Unfortunately there
    is a need as part of the connection procedure for the user to type
    "ato" to force the radio modem into data mode. This/should/ be able
    to be achieved, (as it was in XP), by ticking the option box in the
    dial-up connection properties under the Security tab, by "Interactive
    logon and scripting",  marked "Show terminal window".

    The issue I have is that ticking this box to indicate that I wish a
    terminal window to appear after the connection has been setup is not
    working, ie the window does not appear so the user cannot force the
    radio (modem) into data mode. This terminal mode is not the same as
    using PuTTY or Procomm etc, it is part of interactive logon which is
    sometimes required. The fact that the tickbox is there suggests that
    it/should/ be doing it, but it doesnt work.

    I have rebuillt the laptop with a fresh build of Win7 and removed all
    other connections/modems in case of conflicts but got nowhere. I've
    now reverted to WinXp for the time being as this is not the only
    issue we have with Win7 eg compatibility with older programs that
    work quite happily under WinXP, and yes I have tried compatibility
    modes.

    Overall I'm very dissapointed with Win7. It appears that it's
    abandoned any real attempt at being both a useful tool and a
    gaming/surfing machine in favour of the latter.

     

    Glenn

    If I understand you correctly you want to open a dial-up connection via
    a radio modem to some other PC/device.

    Then it is not correct to create a "direct connection via serial cable"
    dialup connection. Instead you have to create a dialup connection via
    modem. And as modem you have to select your radio modem. If you can't
    choose that modem, then you have not installed the driver for this
    modem. Look into device manager, if you can find your radio modem
    there. If it's not listed under modems but as unknown device you need
    to install a driver for that modem, which is Windows 7 compatible. If
    you are using Win 7 32-bit the WinXP drivers should probably work, too.

    BTW your explanation, how that driver works in WinXp, shows me, that
    even under WinXP the modem/driver only works with a rather nasty
    workaround.

    But in general you will have to accept, that newer software does not
    support out of the box all sort of legacy devices - and that has
    nothing to do with the usability of that software for all types of
    applications, but with the lack of drivers/software written for the
    legacy device to support newer software.

    So for your problem you have not to blame MS Win7, but either your
    legacy hardware producer/vendor or the person whom wrote the drivers
    for that device.


    Wolfgang
    • Marked as answer by Sabrina Shen Friday, September 16, 2011 2:58 AM
    Monday, September 12, 2011 6:31 PM

All replies

  • glenzil wrote:

    Hi

    I wonder if anybody can help, I am using Win7 professional and I'm
    having problems getting a network connection to work properly.  I
    have created a connection of type: "communications cable between
    computers" and can successfully connect to the device. However once
    the device is connected I need to be able to show the terminal window
    to allow the user to enter a modem command of "ato" then press enter
    to continue. If I tick the option box in the security tab on the
    connection properties to "show terminal window" it doesn't show. Also
    I have experimented with a script to do this for me but again the
    connection just seems to ignore it. I should add that this used to
    work on XP with no problem.

    Any ideas?

    What do you want to achieve? Do you want to connect 2 PCs via a serial
    cable or do you want to dial up a remote connection to a remote PC or
    do you want to open a terminal session to a connected device?

    Only the first setup is covered by the connection type you have chosen.
    In this setup there is no need for a terminal window, so you can't show
    it.

    If you want to create a dialup connection you have to use this type of
    connection and if that runs over a modem you can show the modem window.

    If you need a terminal session to a connected device you can use any
    terminal program to connect to the device e.g putty to name one.


    Wolfgang
    Thursday, September 08, 2011 4:54 PM
  • Wolfgang

    Thanks for your reply.

    I'll explain exactly what I do, or did via windows XP before I 'upgraded'.

    I use the laptop as a tool for communicating with a lot of rs232 based equipment, as well as newer equipment. In this instance I connect a laptop thru a dial-up connection to a handheld radio acting as a modem in order to transmit small data files. Unfortunately there is a need as part of the connection procedure for the user to type "ato" to force the radio modem into data mode. This should be able to be achieved, (as it was in XP), by ticking the option box in the dial-up connection properties under the Security tab, by "Interactive logon and scripting",  marked "Show terminal window".

    The issue I have is that ticking this box to indicate that I wish a terminal window to appear after the connection has been setup is not working, ie the window does not appear so the user cannot force the radio (modem) into data mode. This terminal mode is not the same as using PuTTY or Procomm etc, it is part of interactive logon which is sometimes required. The fact that the tickbox is there suggests that it should be doing it, but it doesnt work.

    I have rebuillt the laptop with a fresh build of Win7 and removed all other connections/modems in case of conflicts but got nowhere. I've now reverted to WinXp for the time being as this is not the only issue we have with Win7 eg compatibility with older programs that work quite happily under WinXP, and yes I have tried compatibility modes.

    Overall I'm very dissapointed with Win7. It appears that it's abandoned any real attempt at being both a useful tool and a gaming/surfing machine in favour of the latter.

     

    Glenn

    Friday, September 09, 2011 8:34 PM
  • Hi,

     

    Did you install the latest modem driver?

     

    Also, please check if this handheld radio modem is compatible with Windows 7.

     

    Regards,

     

    Sabrina


    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights. |Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread.
    • Marked as answer by Sabrina Shen Friday, September 16, 2011 2:58 AM
    Monday, September 12, 2011 8:42 AM
  • glenzil wrote:

    Wolfgang

    Thanks for your reply.

    I'll explain exactly what I do, or did via windows XP before I
    'upgraded'.

    I use the laptop as a tool for communicating with a lot of rs232
    based equipment, as well as newer equipment. In this instance I
    connect a laptop thru a dial-up connection to a handheld radio acting
    as a modem in order to transmit small data files. Unfortunately there
    is a need as part of the connection procedure for the user to type
    "ato" to force the radio modem into data mode. This/should/ be able
    to be achieved, (as it was in XP), by ticking the option box in the
    dial-up connection properties under the Security tab, by "Interactive
    logon and scripting",  marked "Show terminal window".

    The issue I have is that ticking this box to indicate that I wish a
    terminal window to appear after the connection has been setup is not
    working, ie the window does not appear so the user cannot force the
    radio (modem) into data mode. This terminal mode is not the same as
    using PuTTY or Procomm etc, it is part of interactive logon which is
    sometimes required. The fact that the tickbox is there suggests that
    it/should/ be doing it, but it doesnt work.

    I have rebuillt the laptop with a fresh build of Win7 and removed all
    other connections/modems in case of conflicts but got nowhere. I've
    now reverted to WinXp for the time being as this is not the only
    issue we have with Win7 eg compatibility with older programs that
    work quite happily under WinXP, and yes I have tried compatibility
    modes.

    Overall I'm very dissapointed with Win7. It appears that it's
    abandoned any real attempt at being both a useful tool and a
    gaming/surfing machine in favour of the latter.

     

    Glenn

    If I understand you correctly you want to open a dial-up connection via
    a radio modem to some other PC/device.

    Then it is not correct to create a "direct connection via serial cable"
    dialup connection. Instead you have to create a dialup connection via
    modem. And as modem you have to select your radio modem. If you can't
    choose that modem, then you have not installed the driver for this
    modem. Look into device manager, if you can find your radio modem
    there. If it's not listed under modems but as unknown device you need
    to install a driver for that modem, which is Windows 7 compatible. If
    you are using Win 7 32-bit the WinXP drivers should probably work, too.

    BTW your explanation, how that driver works in WinXp, shows me, that
    even under WinXP the modem/driver only works with a rather nasty
    workaround.

    But in general you will have to accept, that newer software does not
    support out of the box all sort of legacy devices - and that has
    nothing to do with the usability of that software for all types of
    applications, but with the lack of drivers/software written for the
    legacy device to support newer software.

    So for your problem you have not to blame MS Win7, but either your
    legacy hardware producer/vendor or the person whom wrote the drivers
    for that device.


    Wolfgang
    • Marked as answer by Sabrina Shen Friday, September 16, 2011 2:58 AM
    Monday, September 12, 2011 6:31 PM