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Is it OK to use XP Mode vhd in VirtualBox without a license using VMLite XP Mode Plugin?

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  • Hi,

     

    For the licensing issue, you’d better contact local Microsoft licensing specialist. He\She can explain your question clearly.

     

    In the United States and Canada, you may call the licensing team directly at 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 5:30 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist.

     

    Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find contact information in your location.

     

    Thank you for your understanding.


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    Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
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  • Which Windows 7 Edition do you use? Professional or Ultimate?

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter http://www.winvistaside.de/
    Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:48 PM
  • As far as I know, the message is correct.  The XP Mode VM's license comes with the OS (Windows 7 Pro and up), not from Windows Virtual PC, and Windows Virtual PC is not required.
     
    You are missing the XP Mode seamless windows if you don't run it with WVPC of course, but if you don't need or want that, running it in VirtualBox is fine.
     
    This all assumes you are trying to run the XP Mode image from Win7 Pro and above of course!  Any other host and it wouldn't be licensed.

    Bob Comer - Microsoft MVP Virtual Machine
    Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:53 PM
  • You need a license for XP, no matter where you run it.  If you have Win7 Pro, Ult, or Ent, you get a "free" XP license via XP Mode based on your version of Windows 7.

    If you have the correct version of Win7, you can use whichever VM program you want with your XP Mode installation.  MS makes no requirement that you must use Windows VPC with XP Mode.

    See: Direct Link for downloading Windows XP

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=fb633e9d-ddbc-4044-bb09-4f99e757064e

    Windows XP Mode for Windows 7 makes it easy run many of your productivity programs that run on Windows XP on Windows 7. It uses virtualization technology such as Windows Virtual PC to provide a Virtual Windows XP environment for Windows 7.

    Windows XP Mode provides a 32-bit virtual Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (SP3) environment. This download includes a virtual hard disk (.vhd file) with Windows XP SP3 preinstalled. Client virtualization software, such as Windows Virtual PC is required to use Windows XP Mode.”

    Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:29 PM
  • Yes you can use ANY VM engine,,,,BUT I think.... that only VMlite and Windows Virtual PC will use the XP mode and allow for activation.
    Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:35 PM
  • I see I have to explain a bit more.

    In my anti-piracy crusade I tend to be a bit paranoid. I am very strictly against all forms of piracy, from simple unauthorized use of an image or song to using illegal software and applications, and everything in between.

    I am completely happy with Virtual PC and XP Mode, I do not need XP installed in VirtualBox. I am just looking for clarification. Microsoft allows you to install and use the license free XP Mode, as long as your host system is Windows 7 Pro, Ultimate or Enterprise. WMLite offers this VirtualBox plugin, which allows user to install and use the XP Mode vhd in VirtualBox. This plugin does not control which version of Windows 7 you have installed; as you certainly know, VirtualBox runs also in Home editions.

    The reason of my question is precisely this: I am in a position where I give professional advice to people about how to use their computers etc. If I'm asked what to do when a client or friend asks is it OK to use VMLite plugin because his / her computer has only 7 Home, which makes it not possible to use VPC XP Mode, what am I supposed to say? That no, it's not OK because the license included is valid only when XP Mode is used together with Virtual PC in a system which has 7 Pro or better? Or do I say that there's this trick which allows you to download XP Mode, activate it and use it in VirtualBox, which you can install on Home editions?

    You guys might laugh now, I'm used to it,so please be my guests.  But for me it's absolutely necessary to know my actions are valid and legal. I need to be sure, I want to be sure. My whole existence in the IT and computing world is based on my anti-piracy crusade, I can not afford to do the wrong thing, nor do I want to do it.

    To put it simple: Microsoft allows XP Mode to be installed and used together with Virtual PC, if you have Windows 7 Pro or better. Logically thinking every workaround is against EULA, thus making it prohibited. What is Microsoft's official stand? Is it OK to download a plugin to VirtualBox, which then downloads and installs XP Mode, allowing it to be used in 7 Home editions? What if VirtualBox is installed on Pro or Ultimate? Does this make it OK?

    When you stop laughing, please tell me your opinion... ;)

    Kari

    Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:04 PM
  • According to VMLite's datasheet you need "A licensed copy of Windows XP in virtualized image file format "

    http://www.vmlite.com/index.php/products/vmlite-xp-mode/datasheet

    What is Microsoft's stand, I can't answer that since I don't work for them, but they don't like their products stolen. 

    It's a violation of the EULA to use XP Mode on any OS other than Win 7 P/U/E.  What else do you need to know?  That is the answer.

    We've already stated that there is no limitation on which VM engine you use to run XP Mode, I've provided you a direct link and statement from Microsoft.

    Why do you want opinions of users?  Opinion's don't really matter for "valid and legal" arguments. 

    Here's the summary (based on the links provided above):

    1. XP Mode is only licensed for use with Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate, and/or Enterprise

    2. You are not required to use XP Mode with Windows Virtual PC.

     

    if you're giving professional advice, and someone asks if they should use VMLite to violate the MS EULA, IMHO, you should say no.  What else would you say, especially if your "whole existence in IT" is based on an "anti-piracy crusade."

    • Edited by essjae Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:47 PM update
    Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:37 PM
  • Hi,

     

    For the licensing issue, you’d better contact local Microsoft licensing specialist. He\She can explain your question clearly.

     

    In the United States and Canada, you may call the licensing team directly at 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 5:30 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist.

     

    Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find contact information in your location.

     

    Thank you for your understanding.


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    Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
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  • The answer to your question, as you clarified it below, is straightforward.  You've explained that you want to know whether VirtualBox/VMLite Plugin can be used as an end run around Microsoft's intention to limit XP Mode useage to customers who purchased Windows7 Professional or Ultimate.  Your clients want to install XP mode on Windows7 Home Premium or other unauthorized operating systems.  That would clearly be a violation of the Microsoft license.

    I do thank you for your post because the links in this thread led me to the answer for a similar question that I've had.  I purchased my current computer from Best Buy during the end of July 2009.  It came with Vista, which I upgraded to Win7 Professional as soon as Win7 was released.  I was disappointed to find out belatedly that the Core2Duo CPU in my computer lacked support for hardware virtualization.  Therefore, Microsoft's instructions to install Windows Virtual PC were invalid.

    Under my scenario, my purchase of a retail copy of Win7 Professional clearly gives me the right to download and use XP Mode.  I was wondering if XP Mode could be used with other virtualization engines that don't require hardware support in the CPU.  Now I know.

     

    Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:58 PM
  • Yep, and just fyi, but Windows Virtual PC doesn't require hardware
    virtualization any more.  There's a patch downloadable from the WVPC
    site to allow it to run without VT.


    Bob Comer - Microsoft MVP Virtual Machine
    Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:04 PM