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Microsoft Security Essentials (Morro) Public Beta to be released June 23rd

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  • Since people have asked about this here, I thought I would pass the information along.  Other than the fact that some are reporting the beta will be limited to the first 75,000 to register on the site when it is posted tomorrow, I have no more inormation.  If you do a search for Microsoft Security Essentials you can come up with the link to the website.  It is not yet up and I don't post links to not yet available pages....

    Stephen

    Monday, June 22, 2009 3:40 PM

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  • Can't find it anywhere.  When during today should the links be live?


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    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:08 PM
  • Can't find it anywhere.  When during today should the links be live?
    Go to the following site - http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ - it is now live.  I completed a simple survey and it then took me to Microsoft Connect for download.  The x64 installation program is under 4-MB, and the installation plus a download of current definitions and rather thorough quick scan were completed in 10 minutes (installation without the scan was about two minutes).  I'll try running a full scan this evening. In terms of resource utilization, it appears to be in the Eset level of low - acceptable idle and active RAM and CPU use, and the system was still completely usable while running a scan.   

    Stephen

    • Edited by swyost Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:37 PM
    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:50 PM
  • WTF This is real bulls***

    Not available in your country or region

    You appear to be in a country or region where the Microsoft Security Essentials Beta is unavailable.

    This beta is available only to customers in the United States, Israel (English only), People's Republic of China (Simplified Chinese only) and Brazil (Brazilian Portuguese only).

    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:56 PM
  • WTF This is real bulls***
    How about taking a deep breath and then at least try to act like a mature adult.  The language, even in abbreviation is hardly appropriate.  This is an initial limited beta release - why would you expect it would be simultaneously released in all languages and for all areas?  Leaving that aside, if you read any of the advance press, you would have noted that the locations and languages for initial release have been stated since the news was posted last week. 

    Stephen
    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:36 PM
  • Sorry mate, humans are humans; this has nothing to do with being mature or not.
    I run a windows in english, office in english, dev software in english etc etc. The software is to be downloaded from the internet. Mind the part saying "inter". The country you live in should not be relevant.

    That is all there is to be said about the subject. I was just merely disappointed.

    Having said that the way you flame me here right now is not exactly mature.
    Don't answer this submission, since I won't reply anyway. This is far too childish.

    Regards

    Rem
    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:08 PM
  • Yeah and no issues on windows 7


    Posted By Mikro
    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:02 PM
  • I am in Canada which isn't one of the countries mentioned as being available to download.
    However, I am running Microsoft Security Essentials now after downloading it a few minutes ago.
    Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:46 AM
  • Can confirm was Proton2 says (I'm in Europe). It may be limited to 75,000 downloads, anyway, so the "country limitation" isn't that important.


    Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:02 AM
  • I reside in the UK and I am running MSE or Morro after installing it yesterday. It is available if you look for it.
    Old Mig15 pilot. Using Windows 7 RC Vista that works.
    Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:04 AM
  • On a second thought, it looks like beta-testing is concentrated on countries that either have or serve much internet traffic, or are known as providers of malware. Would make sense.
    Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:03 AM
  • So far I must admit I am impressed.  It has been a long time since I've seen Microsoft design any program with such a small resource utilization footprint. For an essentials program, I find it to be reasonably customizable and scans are pretty quick.  For a couple more positives:  I am finding IE8 performance to be a bit more satisfactory (still can't stand IE8 though); and a slight lag opening Outlook 2007 in Windows 7 x64 RC is gone.  My impression is both performance issues (minor but still noticeable) were an interplay between Eset Smart Security 4 - that doesn't surprise me too much since Smart Security 4 bloated up a bit in comparison to Smart Security 3. Eset also got perceptably slower after a program update a couple days ago.  So far, only one Outlook 2007 crash but I'll reserve judgment on that until I have more information since I've found lots of things will cause occasional Outlook 2007 lockups under Windows 7. 

    Personally, my first impression is that this could be a real winner and a major money saver.  Yes, it is a bit rough around the edges but it has a lot going for it, particularly for the home user wanting to set and forget and for small businesses with lean secuity budgets.  It will take some heavy marketing from Microsoft since computer manufacturers will almost certainly resist putting a free program on their pre-install list (they make their money off all the garbage pre-loaded on machines) but there could be some real potential here. Of course on potential downside for some is that for those who don't like having Microsoft Update set to Automatic, I have heard that is a requirement with MSE since that is how it does program and signature updates.    Not a problem for me, but I know a few people who always seem to object on that front. 

    BTW, while I have heard there is a 75K initial distribution limit, I wouldn't worry about that if you have access to Microsft Connect.  I can still download the Windows 7 beta from there (long since gone from my Technet account access).  Things seem to stick around over on that site/set of servers.  While the initial download screen includes a disclaimer to not distribute,  I also find it amusing that there are instructions on the site regarding how to load it on someone else's machine....

    Stephen
    Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:24 PM
  • Wow i have no words microsoft will kill other companies defenitly, windows 7 ftw,Security Essentials Rocks what more can i say ,the only way i could evade many hackers was with my windows 7 equipped with some gud GPO setting and some others i've been researching ,i dont even use anti-spoof soft and other stuff i control the traffic and all other stuff only from the registry thats all!!!
    IIIII LOVVVVVVVVEEE THISSS COMPANYY YEAHHH(no more bugging echo's)
    Now with Essentials i better stick with it ,its fast and effective!!!
    Cant wait to get all those available on store and hope they will be by october here in Brazil too hehehe
    Cya folks
    Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:55 AM
  • It appears that the targeted download limit is obtained. No more downloads until Beta2.
    Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:46 AM
  • I have questions.
    * Will MSE remain free forever?

    * What user information will Microsoft gather with a MSE service?

    * Will the service still protect when a user is not connected to the web?

    * Will Microsoft keep the service as up to date as competing products?

    * Will MSE be available for all Microsoft OSes?
    (no: Windows XP (Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3); Windows Vista; Windows 7 (Beta or Release Candidate) only

    * Will MSE noticeably impact performance?

    If you have any answers, please reply.  Sources would help.
    Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:09 AM
  • I can only answer your last question (the source is my experience with MSE beta): The performance impact is minimal, you'll notice nearly nothing even when a full scan is running. At average, the "msseces.exe" process consumes ~1 MB of memory. (I'm aware of other reports that seem to indicate the opposite, but I can only speak of my own impressions.) I tried several fictitious attacks with EICAR tests and other AV testing software, success rate = 100%: All malware detected and stopped before execution, so it could easily be deleted before doing any harm. Internet connection is needed for the daily updates, the real time protection works without connection (like any other AV software). - As far I can see at the moment, this is a security solution that (combined with the new security features of IE8 and the Windows firewall) will make a good part of free third party solutions obsolete.
    Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:55 AM
  • * Will MSE remain free forever?
    * What user information will Microsoft gather with a MSE service?
    * Will the service still protect when a user is not connected to the web?
    * Will Microsoft keep the service as up to date as competing products?
    * Will MSE be available for all Microsoft OSes?
    (no: Windows XP (Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3); Windows Vista; Windows 7 (Beta or Release Candidate) only
    * Will MSE noticeably impact performance?

    If you have any answers, please reply.  Sources would help.

    Most of these questions are things to direct to Microsoft, or to look up in the MSE FAQ they put up a couple weeks ago.  For the most part all you can get are opinions here. 

    With that said, Microsoft has been saying from the start that this is a free service/app so it is reasonable to assume it will remain so.  Since the beta is out for Windows 7 (32 bit and 64 bit), Vista (32 bit and 64 bit), and XP (32 bit) there is nothing out there to suggest anything other than it will be available for all three OSs, with the exception the 64 bit version of XP.  As far as performance impact goes, I have found it to be variable.  I've noticed almost no impact on an XP and 32 bit Vista setup, but performance is proving to be less impressive (or at least less consistent) with the 64 bit version of the Windows 7 RC.  Much of the time, I don't notice it at all and (pretty much) all of the time its impact on Outlook 2007 appears to be virtually non-existent, but periodically I see CPU and resource spikes for no apparent reason.  The spikes have gone away when I uninistalled the program but came back as soon as I reinstalled it.  FWIW, these do slow down the system for a few seconds when they occur.  As far as updates go, ithe virus definitions are updated via Windows update and it is required that the update function be set to automatic. 

    Personally, if I could get Eset's minimal system impact, combined with MSE's minimal Outlook 2007 impact, and take Eset's hyperagressive firewall out of the picture, that would be the perfect package.  By the time, MSE goes to version, I am inclined to think it may be that package, but it is definitely still a beta at the moment.  As for for providing sources, I don't think it is very fair to ask people here to do your homework for you.  Microsoft has a web page, plus a FAQ, plus a forum devoted to the product.  A quick search will get you the address for the website and the others are accessible from there....

    Stephen
    Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:40 PM