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Slow Copy & Paste in Vista

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  • My specs (so you'll know):
    ·AMD Athlon 64 4000+
    ·Gigabyte nForce3 mobo
    ·1.7GB DDR Memory (Corsair) 333fsb PC2700
    ·2x250GB WDigital 7200RPM (non-sata, non-raid)
    ·nVidia GeForce 6600GT

    So, whenever I copy and paste a file, it takes forever and a day. It only really happens when I copy over a ton of files. Let's say I copy over 10GB of junk that contains 10,000 files. For some reason, Vista does it's calculations and then takes forever and a day. It literally says it's going to take 3 hours for that many files. On top of that, the computer is a bit unresponsive to Windows Explorer. It seems to eat up my CPU to copy files now. What's up with that?

    (What I've done so far...)

    ·Went to Windows XP Professional, didn't happen there. 10GB of stuff would copy over in 2 minutes at max.
    ·Went to Vista Ultimate. Extreme slow down on copying.
    ·Reinstalled. Didn't do anything. Tried to copy. Same thing.

    Basically, XP works fine. Vista seems to be slow on moving files. This is happening a lot online, from what I've researched on Google. Anyone else having this problem or know how to fix this?

    Friday, February 09, 2007 2:55 AM

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  • I'm having the same issue. Very slow file copies and very slow extractions from zip files.

    New HP laptop with 2GB RAM.

    Interested to hear a Microsoft opinion as there appears to be a lot of people having the same issues.

    Friday, February 09, 2007 3:34 AM
  • Honestly, if they'd fix that and nVidia/Creative get their drivers out, this will be the best Windows to ever be released. I don't have problems with anything else.
    Friday, February 09, 2007 3:38 AM
  • Same behavior here.  Right now I'm trying to copy 12 gigabytes of data over the network to a share on another PC, and according to Windows, it's going to take 14 hours.  It doesn't look like it's going to really take that long, but it does look like it's going to take a good hour or more.  Copying from one drive within the computer to another drive in the same computer is too slow, although not horrible.  It's just that, with XP, it was .. BAM! - the files were there. With some other issues I'm having, I'm almost regretting spending the money on Vista.
    Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:09 AM
  • I am experiencing the same issue.. Slow Zip, Copy and Move operations. Both over network and on Hard Disk. It is my job to evaluate and train on new systems and a lot of my work involves movement of files between locations. After I have finished evaluating this product I will be going back to XP until Vista and Hardware for it matures. This is the only problem I am having with Vista.. it is a great OS otherwise. Please Microsoft fix this issue.
    Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
  • Vista Auto-Tuning

    Posted by amida168 on 14th February 2007

    Vista introduces a new feature called “Receive Window Auto-Tuning”. What it does is to adjust the receive windows size continually based upon the changing network conditions. You can see this article if you are interested in details.

    Some people reported that auto-tuning cause network time-out problems with some applications and routers. You can turn it off if you have experienced such problems.

    1. Open up an elevated command prompt.
    2. Enter the following command to disable auto-tuning
      netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

    If you found that this doesn’t fix your problem, you can turn it back on.

    1. Open up an elevated command prompt.
    2. Enter the following command to enable auto-tuning
      netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal

    You can use this command to view the states of the TCP global paremeters.

    netsh interface tcp show global

    Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45 PM
  • Hi

     

    Any one has other solutions? i have tried the auto-tuning method, but the problem still there. also, if i tried to click the cancel button, the whole system hangs.

    Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:17 AM
  • Disabling "Remote Differential Compression" should do the trick to speed up copying.

    Go to Control Panel --> Programs and Features --> "Turn Windows Features on or off" --> Uncheck Remote Differential Compresstion

    That should do it! :)

    Monday, February 26, 2007 12:23 PM
  • I'm trying to copy 140 MB of files between two Vista PC's on a 100BaseT network.  I've found the Microsoft Vista copy function is basically useless.  After five minutes, the copy dialog box shows 10 day and 7 hours remaining and no files have been transferred.  After six minutes I finally received a request for Administrative privileges, granted them and after 10 minutes still nothing has been transferred.  Disabling RDC has no affect on this problem.

    I know eventually the copy process will complete if I wait long enough, but at this point I'm better off writing the files to CD and using SneakerNet. 

    How can such a basic process be broken in a released product?




    Monday, March 05, 2007 9:06 PM
  • I have tried all the above methods to try and get my copy speed up from more than 50KB but no change so far. I have tried turning off all fire walls on my vista and xp computer no help there either. My file transfer between my XP systems is fine so I don't think there is a problem with the network. Right know I am out of ideas on what to do and am a little pissed off. Does anyone know if this is a problem to Vista to Vista as well or just Vista to every other OS.
    Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:21 PM
  •  

    I'm digging up this thread because I can't stand the issues with transfering files over a network.  WTF?!!?  How can a company like Microsoft have 3 previous versions work better on a network than their newest release?  I can understand if it was failing for the first month or so, so I delt with it.  Then SIX MONTHS later they release some patches that were supposed to fix it, but did very little.  Seriously, it's been 10 F**KING MONTHS!  FIX IT!  I don't want to wait for a delayed service pack, I'm sick of using a 5 year old OS, but it works 10 times better.  Get on the ball and start making patches that actually fix it.

     

    For a specific issue, I'll be copying a file from a network share (XP or Server 2003) over a wireless connection, for whatever reason, I lose connection to my router in the middle of the transfer.  Since the file is a single large file typically, I try to cancel the stalled transfer and it cancels FOREVER!  I tried letting it go once, just to see if there really was a reason why it would take so long.  12 hours later IT WAS STILL CANCELLING!  So, now, instead of canceling, I just hold down the power button until the machine is off, and reboot because if I try to shut down like I should, it still hangs at trying to end the explorer.exe process that has failed.

     

    So please, as an avid supporter of Microsoft and Microsoft products, please fix the basics and worry about the extra games an other bulls**t later.  Sadly though, this rant will probably not be read by anyone at Microsoft that cares about their product actually working for their customers.

    Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 AM
  • Hi, try change network card setting to 100 FULL Duplex to 100 HALF Duplex.

     

    Regards,

     

    Javier Caballero

     

    My specs:

    HP DESKPRO 7700 - 2Gb Ram - Dual Core

    Monday, October 08, 2007 11:01 PM
  • I think you mean from 100 half to 100 full, but anyways, the adapter isn't at fault.  I've tried setting it to 100 full, auto, 1G full, etc, nothing helps (I've also set the port on the switch side to the same settings).  The problem isn't the NIC, nor the cable, nor the switch.  The problem is Vista.  Same machine, same hardware, same connection, using XP works like a champ.  It sucks that Vista's networking sucks to this extent.  The OS is supposed to get better, not worse... (cough ME)

    Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:15 AM
  • I too have this same problem and I am so frustrated and fed up with the backwards leap in productivity that Vista is causing me.

     

    This is on a brand NEW machine, just got it last week, has Vista Business on it. I have 4GB memory on the machine. Any file that I try to copy from the network or to the netwok takes a painfully slow time. Obviously the larger the file the worse the problem. Today I tried copying a 50MB file from my machine to a mapped network drive, it took about 5 minutes for Windows Explorer to even calculate how long it would take, then it finally calculated to take over 3 hours.

     

    This is ridiculous and outrageous. I have tried all of the various suggestions of turning things off/on,netsh, robocopy,  the "hotfix",etc. All to absolutely no avail. I can copy the exact same file from my Windows XP machine and it takes less than 5 minutes to copy the whole thing.

    Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:28 AM
  • I found an article about how the TCP/IP stack is extremely bloated (DUH!!) and it said to run these 2 commands...

     

    netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable
    netsh interface tcp set global rss-disabled

    You can run them from a run prompt or from a command prompt.  It seems that the predictor no longer tries to find out how long it's gonna take befor it starts copying now.  So the time is way off for the first few seconds (like it used to be) then become accurate over time.  Now Vista network copy is close to that of XP, I'd still say it's a bit slow, but very improved.  I hope this helps some one and I hope Vista SP1 comes soon with a solution to this BS network failure...

    Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:42 AM
  •  

    Ive been using Vista since its release in February and I've now gone back to XP - enough is enough!
    There now seems to be a fix for the slow copy and paste and to be honest I have NOT tried the latest one, however there seems to be some good feedback after installing the hotfix.

    Ask for the hotfix from Microsoft...

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770

     

    or download it from here...

    http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=83

     

    either way, if it resolves the problem there will undoubtably be another bug somewhere else!

     

     

     

    Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:14 AM
  • Hi All,

    Just a quick suggestion for you all which has resolved the local drive slow copy issues I have encountered.

    Recently I purchased a PCI IDE controller and plugged an additional HDD into it, I noticed that copying to this drive from my primary HDD gave me 50+Mb per second copying whereas copying from the secondary (slave) drive which was on the same channel as my primary gave me only 5 (if at all, it regularly hung and i had to reboot). So I plugged my secondary drive into the second channel on my PCI controller and behold I got 50+ Mb per second speeds. Note however that if I then plugged that drive as a slave into the first channel on the controller the speeds went downhill again.

    So it seems that as long as the drive is on a different IDE channel to the other drives and is the master device copying is not an issue ...

    Cheers
    Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:23 AM
  •  

    That is not a solution for SATA drives, nor is it a solution for laptops.  It seems retarded that Windows Vista is having issues supporting IDE master/slave (or primary/secondary after the law suite), a standard that has been around for over a decade.  It is almost like this OS is a first edition, since most of these problems haven't been seen since Windows 95.  I wonder where Microsoft's time machine is, and I wonder why they went back in time to get some code that was broken with hopes to reuse it for some stupid reason.  I can complain about Vista all day, and sadly Microsoft won't hear anything I say.  Even in their own forums.  They're lucky Apple won't release their OS to everyone market, or MS would have some serious issues with thier pocket books.

     

    /MAC sucks, but if it works better, I'd be tempted.

    Saturday, October 27, 2007 7:29 PM
  • I have 2 machines, 1st is a Dell 9200C/XPS210 Conroe 6700 Core 2 Duo, 4 Gig 800MHz ram, 250 Gig HD. Other is a Dell Precision WS 380, P4 3.6, 4 gig 667MHz ram, 2 SATA WD 400 GB Drives. BOTH are the pits, !st is running 32 Bit Vista Business, 2nd 64 Bit Vista Business and its the same. When copying files it hangs and in XP I could go to task manager & close window, cannot do that with Vista. Just as bad as Windows 3.1 was! XP was the best thing since fresh bread and they had to destroy it. Hope they send out Service Pak one real soon.

     

    Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:56 PM
  • I am also facing the same problem.  I have Vista Premium.  Even copying 2 files (less than an MB) stall the Windows Explorer for a few minutes.  The same occurs for deleting.  I disabled the 'Remote Differential Compression' but even that does not work!  An observation: all the copying/pasting/deleting is fast enough soon after a fresh boot.  I think, not sure, the delay starts happening after I get the system out of sleep.  I don't know though...
    Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:30 AM
  • hi,

     

    i have purchaed new laptop. my OS is vindow vista. i have save only 7 gb file on my laptop but it show i will consume 55 gb.

    i have wached the c:\ last 10 days and it reduce 15 gb space. i have try to search the bacup file and shadow file with size but i not understand and also i don't kanow the bakup extantion file.

     

    please help to save my hardisk space.

     

    thanks,

    nitin

    Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:15 AM
  •  

    It is the same here. Whenever i copy from one office application to another it takes *** lot of time. Sometime it hangs then i have to stop the application and restart it.

     

    God knows when the fix will arrive.

     

     

    Monday, November 03, 2008 4:21 PM
  • I also get slow copy speeds on my usb flash drive; of which, I have thoroughly tested and writes 10+MBps, although, on Vista it only copies 1.5MBps even my hard drives it writes that slow.  It seems exponentially slower to access the drive when I am using more than half my system resources, mostly affected by RAM usage.

    I have generated an EVEREST report; I would also encourage others to generate a full report so Microsoft can really get this one fixed.

    http://deathdaemonsecure.googlepages.com/_Report.htm

    Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:46 PM
  • Vista SP1 hasn't done a thing to help with this.  I tried copying a 8 MB file from Vista SP1 to XP SP2.  It took 15 minutes!  Dial-up Internet is faster!  From the same XP box, I copied 4.5 GB to the same Vista box in 15 minutes.  8 MB one way takes as long as 4.5 GB the other way.  There is something terribly wrong with that picture.

     It is faster to copy to a thumb drive and use SneakerNet than it is to use Vista on a network.

     I have a whole list of things I think are really wrong in Vista but, in general, I am a big supporter and promoter of Vista.  But this file copying from XP is just plain ridiculous.  File operations have gotten slower in Windows in every version since NT 4 but this is just out of control.  I would say that Microsoft should be ashamed of this issue - except that I know that they are ashamed.  They keep trying to fix it but just seem incapable.

     

    Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:46 PM
  • I have gone as far as using TeraCopy 2.0 beta4.  Instead of the Vista's unreasonable 20 hour estimate, I get a 20 minute estimate for a 5GB multi-file copy operation from Server 2003.  Enough said.

    • Proposed as answer by GregChernis Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:23 AM
    Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:20 AM
  • I experienced this problem on my work machine and found a solution that seems to have fixed my problem.

    Here's the scenario:

    - I started work using a new Dell Vostro PC
    - Anytime I would try to copy documents from any network storage, the copy would take forever, copying at roughly 30kbps, and sometimes getting a "file is inaccessable" error and have to restart the copy.
    - I've had problems copying both individual large files and multiple small files.

    What I did find out though is that by default, this machine's network card configuration has a "Link Speed" settings which was set to "100Mb Full Duplex"; however it has an option for "Auto Negotiation" (The card is an Intel(R) 82562V-2 10/100).

    Setting the link speed to "Auto Negotiation" fixed the problem for me.

    "Network and sharing center" -> "Manage Network Connections" -> Lan Properties -> "Configure" the network adaptor -> "Link Speed" tab.

    Hope this helps.

    </tim>
    • Proposed as answer by tbock Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:23 PM
    Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:22 PM
  • A guy in our development team at work has written some utilities for file copies using the Windows APIs rather than using Explorer.  He's able to max out his gigabit network doing file transfers with the API.  In other words, when you take Explorer out of the equation, file transfers in Vista are so fast that the network becomes the bottleneck instead of the OS.

    Maybe we could get the Vista guys to talk to my coworker.  He could show them how to do file transfers correctly.
    Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:06 PM
  • I ran into a new and interesting quirk related to this.  I was copying from a USB portable drive to my Vista PC.  The progress was going as well as expected, copying about 20MB per second.  The remaining bytes was moving downward as expected.  The estimated time continued to climb and climb until at one point it said that the estimate was 72 days and 19 hours - to copy 20GB from my portable drive.  All this time while the copy was actually proceeding at a reasonable speed.  The copy obviously didn't take hours or days; it took a few minutes.

    The time estimate has been identified as part of the problem with file copies in Vista.  It is definitely problematic in other ways, as I experienced above. 

    Does the product team still have no fix for file copy issues in Vista?  Or have they abandoned us who faithfully leaped into Vista in favor of those who they are still hoping to get to leap to Windows 7?
    Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:31 PM
  • I have an Acer Aspire 6930 Laptop.

    2.0 GHz 1066 Mhz FSB
    3 GB DDR2
    500 MB HDD and the rest.

    To transfer 1.5 gig of data Vista gave me the time estimate of................................

    20 DAYS and 3 HOURS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have the picture ( I took of my monitor before I threw it out the friggen window ) to prove it.

    Vista is a virus, the people involved in its conception should all take thier own lives because they and their program is a cancer on the world.

    Use WIPEDRIVE and re-install stable XP.

    Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:06 AM
  • I have the same problem. Spent the last 7 hours trying to protect the data on my laptop. Vista has so many problems with file access, the virus boys had to take out NTbackup. Takes 10 mins to backup 12 GB with NTBackup.exe. Alternative was 4 hours to copy files off to a networked vista workstation. 500kb transfer using 1 GB LAN card, 2mb wireless?!? Go figure.

    If I had a dollar for every time Vista shat itself with issues, I'd own a Mac. Dollar for very time the word ____ Vista was spoken, I'd own 5x Macs by now.

    Purchased a new acer with Vista in2007, promptly sold of eBay when Vista failed to function. Purchased a used laptop with XP which died Two months ago. I haven’t the time to reformat back to Microsoft’s non support and only working solution Windows XP.

    What were these idiots thinking when they released a faulty product - Vista

    Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:05 PM
  • I have the same problem as kaushalmodi, only it's almost 2 years later and it's Windows 7 ultimate.     Windows explorer was very slow.   Took like 30-60 seconds to perform routine operations (e.g.  create new folder, rename file, copy / paste file, delete file) on a local SATA/300 drive.    This is just to delete small files (e.g.  < 50KB) and one at a time.      I had put my computer to sleep a few times over the week.      After a fresh boot, performance is normal.     I also tried to disable the Remote Differential Compression but that didn't help.    Also cleared the Recycle Bin, but that didn't help.
    Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:11 PM
  • agreed, use Teracopy or Beyond Compare
    FastCopy behaves like windows API

    The windows API seems to be the problem

    same thing happens in 7

    Case 1
    1. start copy 1GB file to flash drive
    2. wait 10 secs
    3. cancel copy
    cancelling takes at least 10 secs

    in XP this is immediate

    Case 2
    1. winkey-E x5 - create 5 explorer windows
    2. copy large
    3. close group of explorer windows
    vista & 7 cancels the copy
    in XP copy is a separate process & continues.

    hopefully these items will be fixed by V SP3 & 7 SP1

    like Vista & 7 because it is more like a Mac OSX
    eg.
    1. Drill down directories
    2. come back up, pressing backspace
    V7, child directory is highlighted, in XP only the list of child files is shown
    Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:44 PM
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    I just found how to fix Slow Cut Copy and Paste

     

    Go to
    1.     Control panel
    2.     System and Maintenance
    3.     Administrative tools
    4.     Run services shortcut

    Once the services program loads find the services called Background intelligent transfer service and stop it also right click on the same service and click properties then change the start value to manual or disabled this should also fix the network problem and USB copy and paste problem.


                                   Amazing problem solved

    PS: This should bring Copy, Cut, and Paste speeds up to a range of 40MB to 100MB per second
    • Proposed as answer by DarkLightning7 Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:12 AM
    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:40 AM
  •  

    I just found how to fix Slow Cut Copy and Paste

     

    Go to
    1.     Control panel
    2.     System and Maintenance
    3.     Administrative tools
    4.     Run services shortcut

    Once the services program loads find the services called Background intelligent transfer service and stop it also right click on the same service and click properties then change the start value to manual or disabled this should also fix the network problem and USB copy and paste problem.


                                   Amazing problem solved

    PS: This should bring Copy, Cut, and Paste speeds up to a range of 40MB to 100MB per second

    Just cycle the system once and then your fixed.

    Works great by simply changing the setting, hit apply then put it back the way you found it and hitting apply again. So problem solved without any real changes. 

    Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:24 PM
  • It don't take much time to copy and paste in vista.There could have been viruses and spywares in the system.Try removing the viruses and spywares using anti virus and anti spyware programs if you have on your computer and then try copy and paste.
    Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:34 AM