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Can grouping by date in the downloads folder be disabled PERMANENTLY in Windows 10 1903? RRS feed

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  • Windows 10 1903 introduced the new "feature" to group downloads by their date by default. While one can manually change that and the web is full of instructions how to do it, it seems unclear currently if there's a way to ungroup PERMANENTLY. From my experience there's not, ungrouping seems to be valid only for the current windows it has been set in. Whenever I simply start a new Windows Explorer-window and open the downloads folder, grouping is back in place. The same is with standard Windows dialogs like "Save as" in other applications. After logging out and in again, after restarting etc., everything is back to it's defaults.

    This problem ONLY happens with the downloads folder, no other is affected. Additionally, my installation is pretty much default, I did not move that folder somewhere else or anything. Especially write access to desktop.ini in that folder is permitted of course, it's simply default ACLs in use.

    So, is there some way to PERMANENTLY disable grouping or not currently? If the latter, are there any plans to fix this BUG, which is NOT a feature?

    If not yet, please vote for fixing because this is massively annoying. I even read about people reverting to 1809 only because of this. :-)

    Friday, August 2, 2019 8:06 AM

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  • I am not sufe if it's a bug.

    You could try the following method.

    Right-click in the Downloads folder and then select Group by --> None.

    Then customize the folder view you want to and apply it to all folders.

    Friday, August 2, 2019 8:27 AM
  • Did you actually try that and does it really fix the problem across opening new Windows Explorer-windows, new logins, restarts and stuff? Because according to my research and tests it does NOT and the changes I make are only per window and temporary.

    So, is "Apply to all folders" really intended to be a PERMANENT fix to ungroup the downloads folder?

    In my opinion it's not and that's why it doesn't work permanently for anyone. Else there would be some problem with people for whom it's not working, like me.

    Friday, August 2, 2019 8:52 AM
  • The following procedure DOES NOT seem to change settings permanently, only worked for some days for some unknown reason!

    I tried once more and this time made sure that really no other apps or else are running. Then I opened the Windows Explorer, moved to "Downloads", disabled grouping in the context menu, made the tab with the settings of the second screenshot visible, checked disabled grouping there as well and stored the current settings for all folders of the current type like can be seen in the third screenshot.

    In contrast to what I did before, and I'm somewhat sure I did the same steps always, the current settings survived even a restart. "Save as..."-dialogs in apps seem to follow my settings now as well. I'm pretty sure to not have closed all apps and windows in former attempts to change these settings, so this might have made a difference. Otherwise I might have made a mistake somewhere in the past.

    So people coming here, give the above a try, make sure that everything is closed and please note if it works or not. I've already read about other users in the past which claimed that the above did not work for them permanently. Maybe they didn't think of open apps and windows etc. as well, maybe it has other reasons for them.

    Let's see if my settings stay the same they are currently permanently. Until otherwise I'm going to accept this answer.


    Friday, August 2, 2019 9:23 AM

  • Let's see if my settings stay the same they are currently permanently. Until otherwise I'm going to accept this answer.



    I hope the settings will keep the same. Have a nice weekend!
    Friday, August 2, 2019 10:52 AM
  • Unmarking your answer, because opening the downloads folder in Windows Explorer today brought back the grouping in Windows Explorer and dialogs like "Save as..." in other apps. So as expected, your proposed fix is not permanent. Not sure what exactly triggered the standard behaviour occurring again, but it was definitely not me changing it manually.
    Monday, August 5, 2019 2:16 PM
  • Setting the view to your liking & then using Apply to folders should work --- it's been working on my machine.

    When you use Apply to folders on the Downloads template, it should create a binary registry value named {885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259} under the key:

    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Defaults

    So check to see if that exists.

    But, if for whatever reason, that doesn't seem to work for you, you can try modifying the default temmplate. That can be found in the registry at:

    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderTypes\{885a186e-a440-4ada-812b-db871b942259}\TopViews\{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

    You can delete the Grouping-related values using the Generic template as a model:

    Any folder that was closed with the grouped view intact will save that view. To enusre all folders that use the Downloads template use your modifed template, execute the following PowerShell to delete the saved views:

    ri 'HKCU:\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\*\Shell\{885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}'; gps explorer | spps

    Keith


    Monday, August 5, 2019 3:36 PM
  • I did some additional research using Process Monitor and found what I think are the default settings for that folder in the registry:

    Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderTypes\{885a186e-a440-4ada-812b-db871b942259}\TopViews\{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

    As being defaults, those settings can't be changed there and are only writable by "TrustedInstaller", which makes sense as those kind of settings has been stored per user in the past already. The key "FolderTypes" seems to contain a lot of standard views for all kinds of folder likes Pictures, Documents and dynamic changes of those like search results within those folders. The key 

    {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

    denotes the settings and is present in many of the other folder types as well. 

    {885a186e-a440-4ada-812b-db871b942259}

    OTOH is the folder type itself, because subkeys contains the special names.

    The question is if those settings are still persisted per user?

    Regarding my research they are in general: Whenever I click the button to apply changes for tall folders of the current type, Windows Explorer reads the registry for special keys and stores some new data. First, the following keys are iterated:

    HKU\S-1-5-21-1884441282-2474353134-3812502964-1001_Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags
    
    HKU\S-1-5-21-1884441282-2474353134-3812502964-1001\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags
    
    HKU\S-1-5-21-1884441282-2474353134-3812502964-1001\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\45\Shell\{885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}

    "Bags" is checked for each of the first two keys and the important thing to mention is the GUID which gets checked. That is exactly the one denoting the folder type for downloads. In my case, none of the above checked keys was present, instead the following was:

    HKU\S-1-5-21-1884441282-2474353134-3812502964-1001\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Defaults\{885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}

    According to Process Monitor and by looking manually at that key, Windows Explorer seems to ALWAYS write that. I deleted it, changed some data etc. and it has always been recreated. The important point is with which data it gets recreated: The key stores a binary string containing values for "Group By" and sorting order and at least "Group By" seems to be a GUID again. Interestingly, that GUID most of the times seems to be the 0-GUID mentioned above for default settings of the downloads folder already. Consequently, whenever that 0-GUID is written to the registry, my downloads folder is grouped by creation date.

    With very few exceptions I don't now the rules for currently, whenever I disabled grouping in the downloads folder and stored that setting for all types of that folder, the 0-GUID has been written instead and disabled grouping has been lost. Only in those very few exceptions a non-0-GUID has been written and grouping was successfully disabled for some time.

    What seems to work ALWAYS is changing the grouping from creation time based to being e.g. size or name based. In those cases I NEVER got the 0-GUID in the registry and opening new Windows Explorer windows always kept the changed grouping. Changing things back to disable grouping and I ended up with the 0-GUID back in the registry, ultimately enabling creation time based grouping again.

    Conclusion #1:

    Storing settings for all folders of some type DOES NOT disable grouping permanently. It might work for some time under some circumstances, like it did for me for some days, but surely not permanently.

    Conclusion #2:

    Because changing the grouping to other aspects than creation time works, disabling grouping could be interpreted as something like "remove all customizations", resulting in the 0-GUID. But because the 0-GUID might map to default settings and those have changed to grouping, this actually enables grouping now always. Instead, like with changed grouping, disabling grouping would be a customization now resulting in some other than the 0-GUID to be used. That would clearly be a bug.

    Conclusion #3:

    OTOH, it might simply be that MS really doesn't want us to change the grouping of that special folder anymore and simply added code to always reset to use the default 0-GUID in the long term. So existing windows could be changed for some time, but in the long term grouping always comes back because of the changed default settings. In that case things work as designed, but are a very bad decision of course.

    Someone with access to the feedback-app should report this problem to Microsoft. I wonder why their own employees and devs don't get angry about that changed behaviour. :-/



    Monday, August 5, 2019 3:48 PM
  • I already provided my own analysis, so please read my own answer to myself as well.

    While your mentioned key gets created, it doesn't seem to reflect disabled grouping, only changed ones. Whenever I disable grouping, your mentioned key contains a 0-GUID which I guess maps back to the default settings, which enable grouping again. When instead of disabling grouping I change that to some other aspect like name or size, a non-0-GUID gets written into your mentioned key and that settings seems to be honoured. At least for some time I guess.

    Changing the default settings is not an option of course, because those are restricted to TrustedInstaller only. It's most likely that changes there will be reset at some point, at least with upgrades. Additionally, MS surely doesn't expect that EVERY Windows-user deals with such internals in the registry. Those changes have been stored per user in the past, so if it's not possible anymore for this folder, that's clearly a bug or bad design decision.

    Monday, August 5, 2019 4:03 PM
  • I'm trying to read your post but really don't understand what you mean when you say "the 0-GUID keeps getting written"

    When you look at view settings under the various subkeys of

     HKCR\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags

    a GroupByKey:FMTID value of {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} and a corresponding  GroupByKey:PID value of 0 means that no grouping is applied -- which is what you want. It's not a reference to the TopView ID found under FolderTypes.

    (gp 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Defaults').'{885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}' | format-hex
    
    
               Path:
    
               00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
    
    00000000   1C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
    00000010   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F1 F1 F1 F1  ............ññññ
    00000020   14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
    00000030   D0 02 00 00 CC 02 00 00 31 53 50 53 05 D5 CD D5  Ð...Ì...1SPS.ÕÍÕ
    00000040   9C 2E 1B 10 93 97 08 00 2B 2C F9 AE 83 00 00 00  œ...“—..+,ù®ƒ...
    00000050   22 00 00 00 00 47 00 72 00 6F 00 75 00 70 00 42  "....G.r.o.u.p.B
    00000060   00 79 00 4B 00 65 00 79 00 3A 00 46 00 4D 00 54  .y.K.e.y.:.F.M.T
    00000070   00 49 00 44 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 4E 00 00 00 7B  .I.D.......N...{
    00000080   00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30  .0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0
    00000090   00 2D 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 2D 00 30 00 30  .-.0.0.0.0.-.0.0
    000000A0   00 30 00 30 00 2D 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 2D  .0.0.-.0.0.0.0.-
    000000B0   00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30  .0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0
    000000C0   00 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 7D 00 00 00 00 00 33  .0.0.0.0.}.....3
    000000D0   00 00 00 22 00 00 00 00 47 00 72 00 6F 00 75 00  ..."....G.r.o.u.
    000000E0   70 00 42 00 79 00 44 00 69 00 72 00 65 00 63 00  p.B.y.D.i.r.e.c.
    000000F0   74 00 69 00 6F 00 6E 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 01 00  t.i.o.n.........
    00000100   00 00 5B 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 53 00 6F 00 72  ..[........S.o.r
    00000110   00 74 00 00 00 42 00 00 00 1E 00 00 00 70 00 72  .t...B.......p.r
    00000120   00 6F 00 70 00 34 00 32 00 39 00 34 00 39 00 36  .o.p.4.2.9.4.9.6
    00000130   00 37 00 32 00 39 00 35 00 00 00 00 00 1C 00 00  .7.2.9.5........
    00000140   00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
    00000150   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 25 00 00  .............%..
    00000160   00 14 00 00 00 00 47 00 72 00 6F 00 75 00 70 00  ......G.r.o.u.p.
    00000170   56 00 69 00 65 00 77 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 00 00  V.i.e.w.........
    00000180   00 00 1B 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 4D 00 6F 00 64  ...........M.o.d
    00000190   00 65 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 23 00 00  .e...........#..
    000001A0   00 12 00 00 00 00 49 00 63 00 6F 00 6E 00 53 00  ......I.c.o.n.S.
    000001B0   69 00 7A 00 65 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 10 00 00 00  i.z.e...........
    000001C0   BD 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 43 00 6F 00 6C 00 49  ½........C.o.l.I
    000001D0   00 6E 00 66 00 6F 00 00 00 42 00 00 00 1E 00 00  .n.f.o...B......
    000001E0   00 70 00 72 00 6F 00 70 00 34 00 32 00 39 00 34  .p.r.o.p.4.2.9.4
    000001F0   00 39 00 36 00 37 00 32 00 39 00 35 00 00 00 00  .9.6.7.2.9.5....
    00000200   00 78 00 00 00 FD DF DF FD 10 00 00 00 00 00 00  .x...ýßßý.......
    00000210   00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 30 F1 25  .............0ñ%
    00000220   B7 EF 47 1A 10 A5 F1 02 60 8C 9E EB AC 0A 00 00  ·ïG..¥ñ.`Œžë¬...
    00000230   00 10 01 00 00 30 F1 25 B7 EF 47 1A 10 A5 F1 02  .....0ñ%·ïG..¥ñ.
    00000240   60 8C 9E EB AC 0E 00 00 00 90 00 00 00 30 F1 25  `Œžë¬.......0ñ%
    00000250   B7 EF 47 1A 10 A5 F1 02 60 8C 9E EB AC 04 00 00  ·ïG..¥ñ.`Œžë¬...
    00000260   00 78 00 00 00 30 F1 25 B7 EF 47 1A 10 A5 F1 02  .x...0ñ%·ïG..¥ñ.
    00000270   60 8C 9E EB AC 0C 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 2F 00 00  `Œžë¬....P.../..
    00000280   00 1E 00 00 00 00 47 00 72 00 6F 00 75 00 70 00  ......G.r.o.u.p.
    00000290   42 00 79 00 4B 00 65 00 79 00 3A 00 50 00 49 00  B.y.K.e.y.:.P.I.
    000002A0   44 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 00 00  D...............
    000002B0   0E 00 00 00 00 46 00 46 00 6C 00 61 00 67 00 73  .....F.F.l.a.g.s
    000002C0   00 00 00 13 00 00 00 00 00 20 41 31 00 00 00 20  ......... A1...
    000002D0   00 00 00 00 4C 00 6F 00 67 00 69 00 63 00 61 00  ....L.o.g.i.c.a.
    000002E0   6C 00 56 00 69 00 65 00 77 00 4D 00 6F 00 64 00  l.V.i.e.w.M.o.d.
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    00000300   00 00 00 00                                      ....



    Keith

    Monday, August 5, 2019 5:37 PM
  • But Windows Explorer IS grouping even though 0 is stored in that key for all the parts you are mentioning.

    I'm opening the downloads-folder, showing the view-ribbons, removing grouping, sorting by name, things look good, storing these current settings for all folders of these types, things still look good, clicking "OK" of the dialog and grouping is enabled instantly again. Even though the registry contains all the 0-values you are mentioning and those values are available in the registry before clicking "OK" already and after clicking "OK" didn't have changed as well.

    Process Monitor doesn't show any "Bags"-keys being available and just to be sure I even executed your little script. Doesn't change anything, 0-values means enabled grouping and obviously this is for a lot of people. The web is full of complains about that changed default behaviour and full of people who are unable to change it back to their individual decision permanently.

    That's exactly why I opened this question and with the 0-GUID being not a concrete value, but a reference to the default values instead, the observed behaviour would totally make sense.



    Monday, August 5, 2019 6:04 PM
  • well, I don't want to argue when I can't understand what you're describing, but here's an alternative I've used to sucessfully modify the Search results to get rid of Content view. The following PowerShell will create a Copy of HKLM\...\FolderTypes under HKCU. You can modify these without the permission issues found under HKLM.

    $source = 'HKLM:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderTypes'
    $dest   = 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderTypes'
    
    reg delete ($dest.Replace(':','')) /f
    
    copy-item $source "$(split-path $dest)" -Recurse
    

    Edit the previously discussed values, log off and back on.


    Keith

    Monday, August 5, 2019 6:58 PM
  • I am on 1903, disabled grouping once and explorer remembers my changes.
    I am in "Details" view, perhaps it is related to the view?
    Are you perhaps logged in with a microsoft account and synchronizing settings from a different system?
    Monday, August 5, 2019 6:59 PM
  • Did you open additional Windows Explorer-windows? Did you check additional apps using "Save as..."-dialogs? Did you log on and off? Did you restart? Did the changes persist for longer than some hours or even days? Those are the interesting questions, because things seem to work "a bit" for many people, but not permanently.

    I'm in details view as well, else I wouldn't be able to sort by name by clicking on column headers. And no, I don't have any MS-account.

    Monday, August 5, 2019 7:08 PM
  • That doesn't change anything for "Save as..." in e.g. Opera, just checked, and does only make sense for Windows Explorer if the 0-GUID is in fact a reference to default values. If that changes anything permanently can't be said currently, because Windows Explorer worked for some days as expected in the past already. So working correctly now doesn't mean much.

    Instead, it's pretty likely that it doesn't work correctly permanently, because "Save as..." was wrong in Opera already. That was not the case some days before.

    Additionally, changing things at that low level shouldn't be necessary of course. There definitely is something wrong in Windows Explorer if these simple things fail for so many people.
    Monday, August 5, 2019 7:20 PM
  • using a "SaveAs" dialog from notepad: again has grouping enabled.
    but when I change the grouping and save a file, the next time the SaveAs dialog is used the grouping is disabled.
    Even after a restart of notepad.
    After this the grouping is disabled in other programs, too (Visual Studio).

    So I admit that the behaviour is unexpected.
    Monday, August 5, 2019 7:20 PM
  • Just wait some days and/or restart your system and/or log off and on your user. I've read so many people the last weeks who thought that they have changed things permanently and NONE of them managed it over some longer period of time. All threads about solutions a read contain people explicitly saying that things worked for some time, but stopped at some point. Exactly like I reported in this thread and you will come back in some days for sure as well! ;-)
    Monday, August 5, 2019 7:26 PM
  • You can save the following as a .reg file & merge.

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderTypes\{885a186e-a440-4ada-812b-db871b942259}\TopViews\{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}]
    "ColumnList"="prop:0(34)System.ItemNameDisplay;0System.DateModified;0System.ItemTypeText;0System.Size;1System.DateCreated;1System.Author;1System.Category;1System.Keywords;1System.Title"
    "LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
    "Name"="NoName"
    "Order"=dword:00000000
    "SortByList"="prop:System.ItemNameDisplay"
    
    


    Keith

    Monday, August 5, 2019 7:57 PM
  • An alternative way to modify the template is to create an HKLM\...\AllFolders entry similar to this:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}]
    "Rev"=dword:00000003
    "FFlags"=dword:41200001
    "Vid"="{137E7700-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
    "Mode"=dword:00000004
    "LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
    "IconSize"=dword:00000010
    "Sort"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,30,f1,\
      25,b7,ef,47,1a,10,a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0a,00,00,00,01,00,00,00
    "ColInfo"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,fd,df,df,fd,10,\
      00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,18,00,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,\
      1a,10,a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0a,00,00,00,10,01,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,1a,\
      10,a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0e,00,00,00,90,00,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,1a,10,\
      a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,04,00,00,00,78,00,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,1a,10,a5,\
      f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0c,00,00,00,50,00,00,00
    "GroupView"=dword:00000000
    "GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
    "GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
    "GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001
    
    
    
    
    
    

    The advantage of this method is this template will be used by all user profiles.


    Keith

    Tuesday, August 6, 2019 1:40 AM
  • Hello Keith,

    Thanks for pointing out the key name of template, it works for me.

    I noticed that the search results in Downloads folder is also changed by something else (for other folders, search results have view of "Content", but Downloads folder has "Details"), but I cannot find it out.

    Can you give us some more hints?

    Thank you!

    Wednesday, August 21, 2019 10:53 PM
  • There doesn't seem to be a dedicated template for Serach Results in Downloads:

    (gp 'HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderTypes\*').CanonicalName | ?{$_ -match 'Search'}
    Searches
    Contacts.SearchResults
    Documents.SearchResults
    OtherUsers.SearchResults
    Pictures.SearchResults
    Communications.SearchResults
    UsersLibraries.SearchResults
    Music.SearchResults
    Generic.SearchResults
    SearchHome
    OpenSearch
    PublishedItems.SearchResults
    SearchConnector
    UserFiles.SearchResults
    Videos.SearchResults

    But Search Results for a particular folder save their view settings like other folders. Are you sure you didn't get a Content view result at some point and swithch the view to Details?


    Keith


    • Edited by KeithM_60601 Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:59 PM
    Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:57 PM
  • There are two situations on Downloads folder:

    First, (although I do not know the reason is) if I click "Apply to Folders" in the folder options of Downloads, it will not copy the layout of Downloads to other folders with same type (in my setting, Downloads is General Items, in default.) but rather overwrite the default Downloads template to Downloads itself.

    It means that Apply to Folders cannot work correctly on Downloads folder. And I use it to reset the settings on Downloads for test below. (And it is an issue needs to be fixed)

    Second: I notice that if I use search box in Downloads folder, the search results will display in Details view. If I change it in results window to Content, it would be fine for all of later search actions, but when I click Apply to Folders (Since I have removed the weird template, it will be reset to Name ascending without group if I click Apply to Folders, as I explained above), all of later search results will be set to Details view.

    I tried it on my another PC with same win10 1903 (which does not remove the template, as a contrast), Apply to Folders will apply the default template on Downloads, and search results in Downloads folder will be set to Details view.



    • Edited by lqy920619 Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:12 AM
    Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:09 AM
  • Cannot change or delete related values with registry editor app, I get an error
    Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:33 PM
  • An alternative way to modify the template is to create an HKLM\...\AllFolders entry similar to this:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}]
    "Rev"=dword:00000003
    "FFlags"=dword:41200001
    "Vid"="{137E7700-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
    "Mode"=dword:00000004
    "LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
    "IconSize"=dword:00000010
    "Sort"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,30,f1,\
      25,b7,ef,47,1a,10,a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0a,00,00,00,01,00,00,00
    "ColInfo"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,fd,df,df,fd,10,\
      00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,18,00,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,\
      1a,10,a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0a,00,00,00,10,01,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,1a,\
      10,a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0e,00,00,00,90,00,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,1a,10,\
      a5,f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,04,00,00,00,78,00,00,00,30,f1,25,b7,ef,47,1a,10,a5,\
      f1,02,60,8c,9e,eb,ac,0c,00,00,00,50,00,00,00
    "GroupView"=dword:00000000
    "GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
    "GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
    "GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001
    
    

    The advantage of this method is this template will be used by all user profiles.


    Keith

    Hi Keith,

    I find your post about group by for the Downloads folder through google search. I have being trying to learn how to use Process Monitor to monitor registry changes. But I'm not able to add the correct filters to see the changes when I make setting settings to the Download folder.

    I was wondering if it possible that you can write a short steps on how to do that? I know the basic of adding a filter for process name for app process or path for registry path filtering. You write it on this forum with the link to it or email me at magic444kenneth gmail.

    Thank you so much for your help in advance.

    Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:47 PM

  • I find your post about group by for the Downloads folder through google search. I have being trying to learn how to use Process Monitor to monitor registry changes. But I'm not able to add the correct filters to see the changes when I make setting settings to the Download folder.

    I was wondering if it possible that you can write a short steps on how to do that? I know the basic of adding a filter for process name for app process or path for registry path filtering. You write it on this forum with the link to it or email me at magic444kenneth gmail.

    Thank you so much for your help in advance.

    To specifically watch Downloads, use:

    Operation is RegSetValue

    Path contains {885A186E-A440-4ADA-812B-DB871B942259}


    Keith

    Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:41 AM