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F8 Advanced options not working.

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  • Hi,

    I thought F8 was working in the same way, but.. it does not. How do I get it again?

    Thanks.

    Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:13 PM

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  • Are you refering to F8 for safemode?

    If that is the case, in Windows 8 safemode is different. You have new recovery option and you could refresh your PC if you want to to troubleshoot problem. There is a way to get safemode, take a look at:

    https://blogs.msdn.com/b/zxue/archive/2012/03/08/win8-howto-20-how-to-start-windows-8-in-safe-mode.aspx?Redirected=true

    Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:17 PM
  • Hi, but is not safe mode, I mean all Advanced options:

    I only can get them by using "Repair the computer" with the Win8 CP Media.

    Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:20 PM
  • Hi, but is not safe mode, I mean all Advanced options:

    I only can get them by using "Repair the computer" with the Win8 CP Media.

    That's how it's meant to work now.

    Also, some people are talking about using shit+F8, but I don't think it's working too.

    Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:55 PM
  • No, Shift + F8 does not work.

    I don't understand, this has been a really good feature from Vista; Windows RE should be embedded in Windows 8 too!  

    Friday, March 23, 2012 3:41 AM
  • Is there any way to deploy that Windows RE into Windows 8?
    Friday, March 23, 2012 1:54 PM
  • It's distressing how difficult it is to get into Advanced Boot Options now. So, when Shift-F8 actually does eventually work, will it actually take us to ABO or will it merely take us to the graphical boot manager (which I could only get to in the first place via the msconfig modification  shown in the above link)?  Because from the graphical boot manager it takes about 5 steps, including a second reboot, to get to ABO. Not exactly an improvement from hitting F8 a bunch of times on your first boot.
    Friday, March 23, 2012 11:51 PM
  • It's a kind of sad... It supposed to be easier, no more difficult to get into Advanced Options.
    Imagine you don't have Win8 media and you cannot enter to Windows.. How could you try to repair Windows?

    Please.. if there is someone from Microsoft who can give us any answer.. I would appreciate it.

    Saturday, March 24, 2012 4:08 AM
  • Imagine you don't have Win8 media ...


    The first thing to do is to create the Repair Disk, in control panel's backup window.

    I accept you disagree with me. However, never, ever, make this error again!
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    I understand, but that does not fix the problem. You can create Repair Disk anytime you want from Windows Vista.. but I think that RE integrated into Windows was a very good idea. Why is not available anymore?
    Saturday, March 24, 2012 5:03 AM
  • Sergio, I agree with you.  Another thing that's been oversimplified in the name of dumbing things down, and no obvious way for power users to reinstate all the necessary functionality.

    Somewhere a few days ago I ran across a post by one of the Microsoft people who proposed a bcdedit command that could be used to reinstate the "geekier" recovery menu...

    Ah, here it is:  http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/8ebe1e2b-05e9-49f2-8e53-4bcb2278035f

    I haven't tried it yet myself; it's on my list of things to do.

    -Noel


    Detailed how-to in my eBook:  
    In development:

    Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options
    Configure The Windows 8 "To Work" Options


    • Edited by Noel Carboni Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:21 PM corrected a typo
    Saturday, March 24, 2012 3:46 PM
  • Which may or may not be the same end-result as the procedure linked in the second post. I guess I'll try this alternate way later if no one chimes in.
    Saturday, March 24, 2012 4:15 PM
  • Hi,

    Repaird disk is the same WinPE, but.. access from F8 has been easier than now, that's the problem, in Win8, you have two options: 1. Run the command line (I have not tried it yet), 2. Create a repair disk.

    Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:12 PM
  • But, the point is.. what if you cannot enter to Windows? I know there are some possibilities to get the Advanced Options menu, but Why the old one is not there just by pressing f8?
    Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:51 PM
  • In Win8CP you can have  the same old text mode advanced boot options (the same old F8 legacy style) through the Metro control panel.
    Many times you need to use F8 because you can't boot. In other words, it's unanticipated. And in that case, there's no reason to require jumping through about 5 menu hoops, and two reboots, to get at it. Even the "as automated as possible" argument doesn't wash, because you can have that and have the ability for those in the know to easily gain access to advanced features upon demand. I have a radical idea: How about taking an obscure key, such as F8, and make it, when depressed at the right time upon startup, immediately bring you to advanced options?
    Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:56 PM
  • It almost seems as though someone at Microsoft confused "simpler to use" with "has fewer features available".

    But removal of something almost no one knows is there, but which is used effectively by some, really makes no sense in that context.

    I wonder if there is a theme being pushed in house that goes something like "change it so that all the old ways of using it become a little more difficult or irritating, to get people to want to change to something else".  That would make sense, because change makes Microsoft money, and it's hard to top things that already work right.

     

    -Noel


    Detailed how-to in my eBook:  
    In development:

    Configure The Windows 7 "To Work" Options
    Configure The Windows 8 "To Work" Options

    Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:46 PM
  • Hi, totally agree with you Noel, look:

    I have tried the Command Line given by Joscon (From MSFT) in other thread:
    Bcdedit /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu yes

    So this command enables the Windows Boot Manager menu, and also the F8 feature to get the Advanced Options:
     

    So.. F8 has not been totally removed from Windows 8.. but you have to click on Windows 8 Consumer Preview if you want to keep the AO enabled.

    The new Advanced Options are very cool, but is not so easy as before to get into them, and Microsoft doesn't say anything. So sad..

    What happened to "Your PC, easier" from Win7.?

    PD. From General tab in the PC Settings, you can enable Advanced Options.. but.. again.. if you don't have access to Windows, and don't have Media, you can do nothing.



    Monday, March 26, 2012 7:29 PM
  • Sergio, thanks for showing what the result of that command is. I still had the inefficient GUI boot in effect from the earlier workaround, so I deleted that one, installed this one, and then set the boot menu to 2 seconds. I can't believe MS is going to force the display of some sort of boot menu in Win8 in order to use F8 (I still hold out hope that Sh-F8 will be the ultimate answer), but if they do I don't mind seeing this screen for 2 seconds.
    Monday, March 26, 2012 9:14 PM
    • Proposed as answer by AnthonyDa Friday, June 15, 2012 10:38 AM
    Friday, June 15, 2012 10:38 AM