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VMware ESXi and Windows Server 2016

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  • H All, I need some help.

    This may not be the correct place for this but I'll give it a go!!

    Physical machine with two physical processors, Xeon E5-2609v3 6-Core, so 12 Cores in total

    if one was to install VMware ESXi and create two virtual machines using 50% of processors (6 CPU's) and all other resources, then install Microsoft server 2016 in each virtual machine.

    bringing me to the question, what MS software/licencing do I need to purchase, with SKU's please?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Monday, November 14, 2016 1:28 PM

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  • Something here may help. Better to ask a licensing specialist.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/windows-server-pricing

     https://www.microsoft.com/Licensing/servicecenter/default.aspx

     

     

     



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Monday, November 14, 2016 3:45 PM
  • So to answer the question (as it has taken me 3 days) and could be helpful for someone else...

    Physical machine with two physical processors, E5-2609v3 6-Core, so 12 Cores in total.
    if one was to install VMware ESXi (or any other virtualisation software, Citrix for example) on the physical machine and create two virtual machines using 50% of processors and all other resources (6 CPU's each),
    then install Microsoft Server 2016 Standard in each virtual machine.

    You will need to purchase: 8x 9EM-00124 - Server 2016 Standard 2Core - Open Licence
    the minimum is 16 cores as per MS licensing

    This will license all cores of the physical server AND give you two virtual licenses allowing you to install two copies of windows server 2016 in ANY virtual environment (not just hype-v, as I incorrectly assumed), you just need to use the same license key in each installation.

    ref: Standard Edition includes rights to two Operating System Environments (OSEs, or virtual machines) or Hyper-V containers
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/cloud-platform/windows-server-pricing

    None of this is clear at all an Microsoft really do need to make things simpler or easier to understand as NONE of the major suppliers (TechData, Ingram...) know what is required either.
    And if you call Microsoft and say VMware they don't compute, its completely crazy.
    Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:53 PM
  • Hi GigaTech IT,

    >>You will need to purchase: 8x 9EM-00124 - Server 2016 Standard 2Core - Open Licence
    the minimum is 16 cores as per MS licensing

    Thanks for sharing the information.

    Best Regards,

    Leo


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    Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:13 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi,

    for Windows Server 2016 Version licensing model, all physical cores in the server must be licensed. Servers are licensed based on the number of processor cores in the physical server.

    A minimum of 16 core licenses is required for each server. A minimum of 8 core licenses is required for each physical processor. Core licenses will be sold in packs of two. Eight 2-core packs will be the minimum required to license each physical Server.

    thanks

    diramoh

    Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:20 AM
  • Hi Giga,

    You could mark the reply as answer if it is helpful.

    Best Regards,

    Leo


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    Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:07 AM
    Moderator
  • Wow, what a struggle. Thank you all, this has been the most helpful information I could find. It’s starting to sink in a little. Now the question is for VMware clusters of multiple physical servers. Perhaps I’m a little dense but let me see if I have this right:
    Let’s say I have 1 ESXi host with 2 eight-core CPU’s for a total of 16 cores.
    I will need 8 two-core 9EM-00124’s.
    This gives me two Windows Server VM guests (aka VOSE’s).
    Assuming $100 for a 2-core license. (The prices I googled vary so greatly I’m not sure if this is close.)
    That’s $800 total, $400 per VM guest.

    Now if I have 3 ESXi hosts in my VMware cluster, each with 2 eight-core CPU’s for a total of 48 cores.
    I will need 24 two-core 9EM-00124’s.
    Does that still only give me 2 VM’s total or do I get 6 (Two per licensed server)?
    If I get 6 VM’s then it’s still $400 per VM guest.
    However, if I only get two VM’s across the cluster then it’s $1,200 per VM.
    I know it’s crazy to think you’d only get two VM’s but I’ve read some things that suggest that all hosts in the cluster have to be fully licensed for all VM’s. Am I nuts?
    Any input appreciated,
    David
    Sunday, March 05, 2017 7:23 PM
  • Better to ask your license provider's trained specialist or ask microsoft directly rather than rely on anonymous forums replies.

     https://www.microsoft.com/Licensing/servicecenter/default.aspx

     

     

     



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Sunday, March 05, 2017 7:56 PM
  • Hi David,

    Just an example to explain the windows server licensing model: for two ESX server:  if each server has 8 X core 2lic of Windows Server 2016 Standard, and the second server is already running ONLY ONE VM instance of Windows Server 2012 Standard in virtual OSEs, then VMware vMotion Virtual Machine Manager may move one instance of Windows Server 2016 Standard from the first server to the second server. But the user may not move a second instance, because moving the second instance would cause the second server to become under-licensed; it would have three running instances but only the rights to run Two at one time.

    thanks

    diramoh

    Monday, March 06, 2017 8:42 AM
  • I agree with Dave that you should ask a trained Microsoft licensing specialist.  Remember that a license is a legal agreement between you and Microsoft.  Relying on anonymous posts in a technical forum to provide legal advice is something your lawyer would feel uncomfortable about.  If you do not want to talk with a trained licensing specialist, you should at least read some of the prepared literature from Microsoft (www.microsoft.com/licensing) or read a vetted guide like http://www.altaro.com/hyper-v/virtual-machine-licensing-hyper-v/

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    Monday, March 06, 2017 2:48 PM