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Windows 2012 License downgrade to Windows Server 2008 R2 & Licensing on VMware RRS feed

  • Question

  • Dear All,

    We have purchased 2 Windows 2012 Standard Licenses. I have to downgrade this to Windows Server 2008 R2 as my current VMware version do not support Windows Server 2012. If I downgrade this to Windows Server 2008 R2 what will be impact on licensing? Will it follow licensing model for Windows Server 2012 or Windows Server 2008 R2. Please help as it is confusing me. Thanks in advance.


    Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:41 AM

Answers

  • Hi,

    this MS document should help:
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-EEF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf

    Q15. If I want to use the bits from an earlier version or edition, what are my options?
    If you have Windows Server 2012 Datacenter edition you will have the right to downgrade your bits to any prior version or lower edition.
    If you have Windows Server 2012 Standard edition, you will have the right to downgrade your bits to any prior version of Enterprise, Standard or Essentials editions.

    The ability to run downgrade bits does not change the licensing or support terms in which you can use the product; the purchased product (Windows Server 2012) rights apply. This means that the license will continue to cover two physical processors and the virtualization rights do not change.

    more: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/windows-server/buy.aspx


    Don
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    Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:23 AM
  • On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:48:00 +0000, AmitCEH wrote:

    Monika you can not downgrade your win 2012 license to win 2008r2. Could you tell me the version vmware, which are you using ?

    This is completely incorrect.

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-EEF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf


    Paul Adare
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    http://www.identit.ca
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    • Marked as answer by 朱鸿文 Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:57 AM
    Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:00 AM
  • In addition to what Paul and Don have said, there are a couple of things that a lot of people forget about when it comes to licensing.  First, if you purchase a 2012 license, you have purchased the rights that come with that version of the license, regardless of which version of the operating is installed when using the 2012 downgrade rights. 

    Secondly, licenses are not installed; they are assigned to a specific piece of hardware, which is really a bookkeeping transaction (and you really should keep track of this in case your own auditors want to see that you are in compliance with what you have purchased).  You may install a copy of the operating system on the physical host or a virtual machine, but that is a right granted by the license that is assigned to the physical host.


    tim

    • Marked as answer by 朱鸿文 Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:57 AM
    Monday, October 22, 2012 12:36 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    this MS document should help:
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-EEF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf

    Q15. If I want to use the bits from an earlier version or edition, what are my options?
    If you have Windows Server 2012 Datacenter edition you will have the right to downgrade your bits to any prior version or lower edition.
    If you have Windows Server 2012 Standard edition, you will have the right to downgrade your bits to any prior version of Enterprise, Standard or Essentials editions.

    The ability to run downgrade bits does not change the licensing or support terms in which you can use the product; the purchased product (Windows Server 2012) rights apply. This means that the license will continue to cover two physical processors and the virtualization rights do not change.

    more: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/windows-server/buy.aspx


    Don
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    Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:23 AM
  • On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:48:00 +0000, AmitCEH wrote:

    Monika you can not downgrade your win 2012 license to win 2008r2. Could you tell me the version vmware, which are you using ?

    This is completely incorrect.

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-EEF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    The world is coming to an end...  SAVE YOUR BUFFERS!!

    • Marked as answer by 朱鸿文 Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:57 AM
    Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:00 AM
  • On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:57:26 +0000, AmitCEH wrote:

    Follow this Link?http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/datacenter/understand-windows-server-2008-r2s-downgrade-rights/1644

    This link discusses downgrading from 2008 R2 to another Server OS. The
    OP's question is regarding downgrading from Server 2012 to 2008 R2.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    My girlfriend always laughs during sex - no matter what she's reading.
    - Steve Jobs (Founder: Apple Computers)

    Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:01 AM
  • In addition to what Paul and Don have said, there are a couple of things that a lot of people forget about when it comes to licensing.  First, if you purchase a 2012 license, you have purchased the rights that come with that version of the license, regardless of which version of the operating is installed when using the 2012 downgrade rights. 

    Secondly, licenses are not installed; they are assigned to a specific piece of hardware, which is really a bookkeeping transaction (and you really should keep track of this in case your own auditors want to see that you are in compliance with what you have purchased).  You may install a copy of the operating system on the physical host or a virtual machine, but that is a right granted by the license that is assigned to the physical host.


    tim

    • Marked as answer by 朱鸿文 Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:57 AM
    Monday, October 22, 2012 12:36 PM
  • Hi, the question for Microsoft is very simple.

    If a customer needed previous OEM kit, as far as Windows server 2008 you could obtain them from the link:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/downgrade-rights.aspx

    where there was the form to complete to send Microsoft the request.

    Now that the link is not working anymore, and redirect to

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/windows-server/support.aspx

    where is the possibility to request the previous OEM retail kit (2008R2, 2008 and 2003R2)? How could the customer obtain them?

    Thanks

    Friday, December 7, 2012 8:40 AM
  • @ Leonardo_A

    from: http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages/downgrade_rights.aspx

    The downgrade process

    Follow these steps to downgrade to a previous version of Windows or Windows
    Server software:


    1. Obtain genuine Windows media and a corresponding product key for the version
      of Windows that is eligible for downgrade.
      • The media should come from a prior legally licensed version from the OEM or
        Retail channels.
      • End users who are licensed separately through Microsoft Volume Licensing
        (VL) may provide their VL media and key to a system builder to facilitate the
        downgrade on their own systems.
    2. Insert the downgrade-eligible version of Windows media in the CD drive and
      follow the installation instructions.
    3. Type the product key.
      • If the software was previously activated, you will not be able to activate
        it online. In this case, the appropriate local Activation Support phone number
        will be displayed. Call the number and explain the circumstances. When it is
        determined that the end user has an eligible Windows license, the customer
        service representative will provide a single-use activation code to activate the
        software. Please note that Microsoft does not provide a full product key in this
        scenario.
    4. Activate the software.

    Don
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    • Edited by DonPick Friday, December 7, 2012 9:45 AM
    Friday, December 7, 2012 9:44 AM
  • Don,

    I tried following your steps to downgrade but the license key for server 2012 does not work with the server 2008 R2 after installing server 2008 R2.  

    Any tips on this?

    Thanks.

    Thursday, November 5, 2015 3:49 PM
  • Don,

    I tried following your steps to downgrade but the license key for server 2012 does not work with the server 2008 R2 after installing server 2008 R2.  

    Any tips on this?

    Thanks.


    As mentioned above, you must contact MSFT by telephone to explain that you want to exercise your downgrade rights, they will give you the relevant product key for the OS version you want.

    Don [doesn't work for MSFT, and they're probably glad about that ;]

    Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:11 PM