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    HI all

     

    Machine:

    Intel i7-2720QM, nVidia GT 555M (3Gb), RAM: 8Gb - 1333MHz DDR3.

     

    Problem:

    windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit has a very slow start up after the last update (.Net 4 and Win7-SP1)

     

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    I got my dell laptop 3 days ago. it was loaded with Win7 64-bit home edition. Bundled with loads of other dell and free software non of which i need. So i did the folowing:

    1- Clean-installed Windows 7 Enterprise 4-bit. then

    2- Installed all the necessary drivers for the laptop

    3- Updated the System to SP1 ( this includes all the updates since WIn7 hit the market till 23 June 2011)

     

    Every time the system needed to re-start (from off to ready to use) it took no more than 30 seconds (shutting down is not counted here) including entering my password and getting my desktop ready to use.

     

    EXCEPT for when the last update took place, that included the .Net 4 client and SP1....... restart now takes a painful 1 minute 45 seconds!! There is a long wait after entering my password (about 35 seconds) and when i get the desktop the mouse will be having the blue circle showing that something in the background is still being processed!

    PLEASE HELP!!! this is not how Win7-64bit is supposed to be

     

    ps: i tried shutting down the un-necessary programs at start up (MSconfig command), nothing changed! lately i even tried uninstalling .net 4 and its updates and SP1.. still slooow!!

     

    Win7-Geek

    • Changed type Carey FrischMVP Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:08 PM Is a question
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    Process Monitor will log activity during boot if you go to Options, Enable Boot Logging.

    So enable that, then restart, then bring up Process Monitor again and it will prompt to save the collected data.

    Then I would go under Tools, and review Process Activity Summary, File Summary, Registry Summary, etc. to figure out what it is spending time on at boot. Make sure to maximize those summary windows when you view them because the paths, which are the most interesting piece of it, are on the far right column and not shown until you maximize them.

    Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:11 AM
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    HI Craig

     

    I tried what you said but the produced file is massive!! im not sure how i can make use of it!

     

    I tried for example exporting it to MS-Excel to sum upp the time consumed by Microsoft Security essential to launch across about 3000 lines!!

     

    I found out that 80 seconds are taken by that security thing alone :-(

     

    what shall i do!!#

     

    Win7-Geek

    Monday, July 25, 2011 8:36 PM
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    There's also boot time information collected that you can see using the Event Viewer. Look for Application and Services Logs, then "Diagnostic-Performance" and then "Operational" in the event viewer. There you should see the applications or services that are causing the most degradation to the startup time of the system.


    Monday, July 25, 2011 8:55 PM
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    Please reinstall MSE and see if it can resolve the issue.

    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. ”
    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:57 AM
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    Dear All

    According to the event viewer.. every time there is a different program that causes the long start up! however, the ones that are responsible most of the time (more occurances) are as follows:

    1. MsMpEng.exe  (this belongs to security essentials! it doesnt cause me any issue on my desktop only on my laptop i tried unistalling it, nothing changed)
    2. SearchIndexer.exe (indexing background engine!)
    3. svchost.exe (this guy usually has lots of things embedded inside and i couldnt identify the single problematic component, Wifi amd wireless might be one issue! not sure yet)
    4. BackgroundPerfetchTime  (the performance enhancing engine! isnt that ironic and funny!)
    5. MMC.exe (this bloody Microsoft Management Console is causing loads of trouble for the start up mpst of the time lately! e.i. the last 10 start-ups)

    as you can see! any suggestions?

    regards

    Win7-Geek

     


    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:27 AM
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    Can you make a trace and then upload the resulting file?

    (Read about the trace: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140247-trace-windows-7-bootshutdownhibernatestandbyresume-issues/)

     

    MsMpEng.exe is going to generate a delay but it shouldn't affect that much the startup

    SearchIndexer.exe neither, unless you have added too many places to its index

    BackgroundPrefetchTime if I'm not mistaken should only affect you if it has invalid data in its cache (you could do a disk cleaning to verify)

    MMC.exe I don't know why this could generate a delay to boot times to be honest.

     

    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:47 PM
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    Turning on verbose boot/login status is easy and useful (it's good enough for 2008 R2):

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325376

    I bet the svchost contains the Cryptographic Service.

    Check if mscorsvw.exe is busy compiling the .net stuff.

    Recreate \windows\prefetch\layout.ini and do boot defrag for Readyboot:

    start /wait rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

    Disable the multimedia class scheduler service if you care more about booting speed than audio priority: 

    sc config AudioSrv depend= AudioEndpointBuilder/RpcSs
    sc config MMCSS start= disabled

     



    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:08 PM
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    UPDATE!

    Dear All

    I did the following:

    I went to services and turned the following survices..

    • from (Auto Start) to (Auto Delayed Start):
    1. Wirelessall intel Wilreless services
    2. All bluetooth Survuces (except as follows)
    3. Andrea RT Filters (Realtek audio service
    4. Windows Search
    5. nVidia Update
    6. .Net 4 services were already on the delayed auto start!
    • from (Auto Start) to (Manual):
    1. WWAN Autoconfig
    2. Windows Media center Receiver & schedular
    3. Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant
    4. Bluetooth media and support
    • from (Auto) to (Disabled)
    1. Media center extender services
    2. Windows media player network sharing service

     Nothing changed immediately!! However, after several start-ups and shut-downs the system seems to be speeding up!

    YET! at the moment the start up time ranges from 25 seconds to 40 seconds (after it was about 116 seconds) ! such a moody laptop!

    When i tried verbose boot/login status, the start up was so fast as i couldnt read all what was printed on the screen !! STRANGE! but there was only two statements after entering my password, Loading the services, then loading desktop profile! and they took 1 second lol!!! (before, i waited 40 seconds after the password!)

    I will keep you guys updated as things dont seem to be solved entirely! But MANY MANY thanks for your help and support

    Win7-Geek

     

     


    Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:21 AM
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    You’re right, Windows 7 should not be that slow! Fortunately, there may be a solution to your problem. Have you looked at System Restore? System Restore could slow down your computing by creating too many restore points, which may be why your computer slowed down. Too many restore points can prevent ReadyBoot from running properly because too many snapshots need to be validated. If you’d like to know how to solve this problem, you can find some good tips in this blog post: http://bit.ly/pyBj7f

    Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:50 PM
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    It might have been that Readyboot needed to optimize, which takes 5 reboots/logins (as long as c:\windows\prefetch\layout.ini is there).

    Windows 7 shouldn't need Readyboot at all (Windows 2008 R2 doesn't use it), but Windows is very i/o bound.

     

    Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:53 PM